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Up Tick In New Corona Cases

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#1 ·
Anyone else notice the uptick in cases especially in Harris County is just shortly after 60,000 people peacefully protested here in Houston? Not knocking the protest at all. It was done peacefully and with great respect overall.
I am simply pointing out that there is a significant rise in new cases just along the right timeline to be associated with 60,000 people being in very close contact in Houston. Food for thought.
Let's see how much media play that correlation gets.
 
#13 ·
No matter when we opened up - in May or a year from now - we will see a more cases. It’s just how a virus lives and you can’t change nature. Vaccines and herd immunity are our best walls. Masks and shutting down society are just delay tactics.


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#14 ·
Question....how is the situation below counted in the stats?

Friend of mine and her family were super sick in late December/early January....tested for the flu and came back negative. Told them they had a virus and go home, take lots of fluids, etc.....same drill as always.

Fast forward to last week...she was tested for Covid prior to going in for a minor surgery...and she came back positive for the antibodies. No way she had it since...she has been super careful given she had cancer/chemo a few years back.

Is she included as one of the "new cases".

We were around these folks before and after they were sick....I'm convinced that most of us have been exposed at one time or another since early this year.
 
#16 ·
I wear a mask. Everyone should whenever your outside your home and it's practical.

One good piece of news that I heard from a higher-up at Methodist hospital (my company's single largest client), is that the average age of the positive cases in the new surge is significantly lower than early on before and during the lock-down. Younger people do better against the disease and the number of ICU rooms occupied as a percentage of positive cases and as a percentage of hospitalizations is way down.
 
#17 ·
Anyone else notice the uptick in cases especially in Harris County is just shortly after 60,000 people peacefully protested here in Houston? Not knocking the protest at all. It was done peacefully and with great respect overall.
I am simply pointing out that there is a significant rise in new cases just along the right timeline to be associated with 60,000 people being in very close contact in Houston. Food for thought.
I will start by saying I think there is little to no doubt that a protest or any other gathering with 60,000 in attendance is going to produce some infections. Fortunately, many were wearing masks and the gathering was for the most part open air. So even though they were not distancing, there's that.

I think it is also important to point out that the uptick also coincides with the reopening of the economy and relaxation of the social distancing and mask requirements brought on by the move to Phase III. In fact, many businesses had already been shown to be out of compliance with the Phase II guidelines.

Also, many individuals, surely totaling way over 60K in a population of 4.7MM in Harris County alone, have never followed the mask wearing and distancing guidelines. I can bear witness to that. The grocery store I use is averaging maybe 1 in 3 wearing masks. Home Depot I'm told is even less. But let's say half of all of the adults are wearing masks and social distancing. If you don't count children (26.6% of the total population of Harris County according to 2019 Census Bureau estimate), that would mean 1.7 million, just in Harris County, are not. Even if it's 1MM, the 60K at that protest pales in comparison. You don't have to be in a large crowd to spread the virus. If one infected person hugs all 60K that would be true. But an HEB is just as likely to produce an infection if guidelines aren't being followed.

Again, I'm sure the protest will contribute to the numbers. I don't see how it could not. But that contribution is probably a small percentage of the total cases contributing to the uptick in Harris County and the state.

Speaking of food for thought. What did you think about our president's decision to hold a rally in Tulsa when he did? And he was estimating the attendance would be as much as 100K and potentially way more. And that's the leader of our nation. Think of what that uptick would look like knowing that very few of the attendees (including himself) would be wearing masks. Many shoulder to shoulder inside of a closed building.
 
#26 ·
I for one am amazed that you can start a reply and talk yourself into making it political
Are you going to try and pretend this thread didn't start out political? C'mon man! All I'm doing is replying with some logic and pointing out a gap in his.

As far as my last comment goes, I'm simply asking a question. Like the OP said, food for thought. But you're right, I shouldn't have talked about a situation that could be responsible for a spike in infection rates, in a thread that is about a situation that could be responsible for a spike in infection rates. And my bad for bringing the president into it. I was just hoping I could get someone to see the hypocrisy of it all. But wrong board for that.

I did notice though that you didn't say anything to boom! when he said:

Media and dims will blame it on the workers.
Second post in the thread. Not political? And boom! is often very political. He's no newbie to the world of political statements.
 
#31 ·
Because he likes to put words into other peoples' mouths
How am I putting words in anyone's mouth? I asked a simple question.

What did you think about our president's decision to hold a rally in Tulsa when he did? And he was estimating the attendance would be as much as 100K and potentially way more. And that's the leader of our nation. Think of what that uptick would look like knowing that very few of the attendees (including himself) would be wearing masks. Many shoulder to shoulder inside of a closed building
.

I'm just asking for an answer, in your own words.
 
#35 ·
I've seen quite a few reports of many younger people no longer complying with social distancing guidelines. They're getting back to their social lives--hanging out, partying, going to the lake or beach in groups, going to bars and restaurants, etc. While they may feel less vulnerable due to their age, it is driving up the case numbers and, indirectly, adding to the hospitalizations when they pass it on to their parents, grandparents, older coworkers, or other more vulnerable people. Also, I'm sure some of it is due to more people getting back to work, but also not taking all the precautions they should be taking when doing so.

I hate seeing this getting politicized when, at the end of the day, it comes down to people taking personal responsibility to stop the spread in most cases.
 
#36 ·
BTW, one other theory I've heard is that the upswing is primarily in sunbelt states, TX, FL, and AZ due to the weather. This could be because people are spending more time indoors in the AC as the weather heats up and that leads to less social distancing. Sort of like how the flu spreads in colder weather states in the winter because people spend more time indoors. Certainly sounds plausible, at least for a portion of the increase.
 
#37 ·
Little glimpse of what little I know about testing.

Lab corps main campus is a customer of mine. We have over the course of 4 projects installed more equipment over the last month or so. Any way, they are running 26k test every 24 hours and if I do some simple math they should be about 34k every 24 hours by Monday. This is just one lab and one location in Houston.

Curious what total volume of samples tested per day is in houston alone.
 
#41 ·
Little glimpse of what little I know about testing.

Lab corps main campus is a customer of mine. We have over the course of 4 projects installed more equipment over the last month or so. Any way, they are running 26k test every 24 hours and if I do some simple math they should be about 34k every 24 hours by Monday. This is just one lab and one location in Houston.

Curious what total volume of samples tested per day is in houston alone.
One test every 2.5 seconds?
 
#39 ·
I have a friend whose wife is a doc who runs a big hospital and she tells me this thing is about to explode in Texas and some other places. She says of course everyone won’t die but people will still be shocked at how bad it gets. I hope she’s wrong but she’s generally a reasonable person. I’m still going fishing, though...
 
#45 ·
My position stands-the bars that violate the rules, the people that violate the rules and the stupid 'protests' that grouped 60,000 people together in one place. It aint the gummint's fault-it's the dumbazzes that don't care. If we closed up another month, the people and businesses would scream bloody murder.

Once again PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is key, not anything else.