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Old 01-12-2020, 01:34 AM   #811
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:35 AM   #812
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Culling is as important as all other aspects of Management!!

Good job!!

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Old 01-12-2020, 09:38 AM   #813
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:52 AM   #814
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tarpon right

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exactly, and you by all means don't want those fork horns beeding your does. My question is why do you wait so long (as in age of deer)to cull out the inferiors?? Are you unable to truely identify this earlier on in age??
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Old 01-14-2020, 01:29 AM   #815
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exactly, and you by all means don't want those fork horns beeding your does. My question is why do you wait so long (as in age of deer)to cull out the inferiors?? Are you unable to truely identify this earlier on in age??
Many bucks may look inferior but carry a strong gene. It’s really hard to explain without pictures of deer year to year to talk about it. We see bucks say 130” with the same genetics as really good bucks we have taken 190-200” range. They look the same just not as good. Maybe a bad doe but still carrying a good gene. That probably didn’t make sense. Lol
Maybe 1/2 bad so to speak. In the wild without manipulating genetics there’s no room for mistakes. I tell people all the time. On a free range ranch you can always take deer off but you can’t put them back so take your time.
Long and the short is we are just very cautious on what we cull.
I’ve seen some crazy things happen year to year. We cull mostly off of “frame” more so than points. For example this year we left a 7 point strictly because he is 26” wide this is the 3rd year we have left this buck to breed.
He’s got short brows, short tines but long beams and a wide 26” spread. Probably score 130.
He lives at the same blind we have a 30 point buck well in the 200s.
The 30 point buck is only 17” wide. I’m really hoping that 26” wide 7 point found that 30 pointers sister and makes a wide 12-16 point offspring.
I guess what I’m saying is I’m an opportunist more than a ranch manager.
We really like to give deer the full opportunity to show their maximum potential.
With year round feed deer live to older ages and many times don’t show their true potential until 8-9-10 years old even older for some.
On the other hand just as many may fail at 9-10 years old. They all age differently just like people. We are seeing a major improvement in our overall younger deer being raised from a fawn on our feed program so we are now raising the bar on “culls” and trying to take the ranch to the next level. In my honest opinion there are no true culls. You never know what the mother or father to an inferior looking deer may be out of.
Like I said it’s really hard to explain in a short write up.
If I had a choice without worrying about too many deer per acre. I would not shoot any culls or does over a hard aggressive management plan if that makes sense. When I say to many deer per acre for example we guessed we were at a deer per 3-5 acres this year on average. Some areas of the ranch do have more deer than other parts of the ranch.
I guess the longer they live the more we feel we have given them a full chance to show their potential.
The bigger the culls get the bigger the smiles on the friends and families faces.
That being said I guess we kinda raise culls for friends and family just a little older and bigger than many other ranches allow. I think we took around 60 -70 bucks and 125-130 does this season off 13800 acres. That’s a LOT for us.
This really might not make sense in writing. It’s hard to put it into perspective with what’s been written and preached about whitetail management over the past 30 years. I know our plan is different but its just a plan that we feel has been working for us.

Also we had a sad deal today.
Found these 2 monsters locked up and dead. That really sucked!
At least it was post rut and hopefully their genetics will live on.
Sure hated seeing this.
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Old 01-14-2020, 06:24 AM   #816
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Man what a waste, hate to see that, but can you imagine the fight those big dudes had. Hope yall are gonna keep the skulls locked up like that and display them at the camp.
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:23 AM   #817
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That sucks. Would have to be a bad way to go.
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It’s really sad to see such quality deer suffer and go to waste. Mother Nature can be very cruel sometimes.
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Old 01-14-2020, 08:29 AM   #819
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Man what a waste, hate to see that, but can you imagine the fight those big dudes had. Hope yall are gonna keep the skulls locked up like that and display them at the camp.
That would be cool!
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tarpon wow

the one buck looks like a 200 class.
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