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Old 01-14-2021, 10:16 AM   #41
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Keep in mind that major communications companies such as AT&T and others, even the major power companies were private businesses, but since the major population depended on them to do certain things for the public, regulations were put in place controlling them. Since Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, etc offer and effect the public in many ways, what is the difference? Can they not be controlled the same way?
they should have been, but since the left wanted to exploit them for their political gain it wasn't an option. and now they are a part of the monopoly aligned with a political party, the transition is about 80% complete. we have a little longer to debate this before there is nothing to debate.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:20 AM   #42
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Keep in mind that major communications companies such as AT&T and others, even the major power companies were private businesses, but since the major population depended on them to do certain things for the public, regulations were put in place controlling them. Since Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, etc offer and effect the public in many ways, what is the difference? Can they not be controlled the same way?
I think the courts will absolutely have to address this. Under 230 they are not liable for content. They are more like the the news stand owner. As long as the content isnt illegal (****, etc), they are not liable for content. If they decide to quite selling the NYT, then thats a business decision.
The disturbing part is, a few companies have a tremendous amount of power to control information. Too much power is concentrated in the hands of a small number of individuals. Its a huge question.
I would bet Twitter had 10 rooms of lawyers determine it was within their legal rights to ban Trump.

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Old 01-14-2021, 10:54 AM   #43
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I see by your actions that you are not a man of principle. Because you are criticizing an alleged free speech issue out of one side of your mouth but making a killing on AMZN stock out of the other.

The Supreme Court on multiple occasions has ruled that the First Amendment does not apply to private companies. And once again as a private company equal protection under the law does not apply. It is not a public law they are enforcing unequally. It is a private policy.

No different then the terms of service on this forum or any other.

And as for the TDS. Could not be further than the truth. I agree with probably 90% of Trumps policy over the last four years.

It's his loud Yankee mouth that gets him in trouble that I do not agree with.

And congratulations. AMZN was up another 45.00 yesterday. That should ease the pain of any perceived First Amendment violation.
Once a private company acts on behalf of the government, sides with a particular party and applies rules in favor of that party, the 230 clause goes out the window.
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Old 01-14-2021, 03:00 PM   #44
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Keep in mind that major communications companies such as AT&T and others, even the major power companies were private businesses, but since the major population depended on them to do certain things for the public, regulations were put in place controlling them. Since Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, etc offer and effect the public in many ways, what is the difference? Can they not be controlled the same way?
If you want to argue Twitter, Facebook or Amazon have a monopoly and need to be broken up you may have a point. That is a different issue/law.

How a private company enforces their terms of service is not a public issue.
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Old 01-14-2021, 04:59 PM   #45
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2 cool fishing is about a social a site as you find me on.

No Face Twitter for me.
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If you want to argue Twitter, Facebook or Amazon have a monopoly and need to be broken up you may have a point.
How about we start with the 230 protection?
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When Monty was in control of 2cool, he would delete posts and have people banned. Was that a violation of freedom of speech? Is not this a news source?
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Getting rid of 230 is interesting. Should site owners and moderators be legally responsible for what users post? Will they be responsible for a user yelling fire in the crowded theatre? Could a site like 2Cool exist if it was legally responsible for for all posts? Certainly they would have to have full time moderators. I dont think the Jungle would be viable.
I honestly dont know. It would get rid of a lot of ****. Lots of black holes out there. But at what cost?
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The election was stolen & anybody with even a minimal brain knows it.

You are correct, sadly there are many really stupid people out there who have no common sense and want to live in a vacuum.


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You are correct, sadly there are many really stupid people out there who have no common sense and want to live in a vacuum.


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H2 you should change your avatar to Trump 2024, the gestapo may have him imprisoned by then, but there is a huge Trump family ready to take the helm. We desperately need these family, they are all pretty impressive, and our only hope??

let's compare,

self made multibillionaire with steller kids walking a straight line, no drugs versus 50 year deep deep swamper, robbed the country for billions, sold out to china and russia, and has a crackhead son sleeping with his late brothers window, also in bed with russia. you can't make this stuff up.
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