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**On The Hook** · 05-09-2014, 03:05 AM

Seems this guy, convicted felon Fred Rich of Portland Texas, owner of lonesome bull ranch was arrested for allowing a hunter to kill a 22 pointe buck in an enclosed pen. According to news reports the ranch conducted deer breeding without permits, and 200 animals were euthanized for because of chronic wasting disease. This guy was kicked out of the Texas deer association several years ago. What a turd, I guess that he has found that crime does pay once again.

http://www.kiiitv.com/story/25469665...ed-out-of-jail

http://www.lsonews.com/busted-loneso...er-euthanized/

**Cynoscion** · 05-09-2014, 06:43 AM

The deer were euthanized to test for CWD not because of CWD. BIG DIFFERENCE!

**Capt. Marcus Canales** · 05-09-2014, 08:39 AM

I thought they were killed for testing, didnt know they actually had cwd??

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**liedtcr** · 05-09-2014, 09:49 AM

I did not know you had to kill the deer to test for CWD. What a waste.

Maybe the Biologist on here will shed some light for us.

Wonder how big the pen was? Wonder what constituts a pen?

**sotexhookset** · 05-09-2014, 10:06 AM

Ugly mfer. What a pos.

**FREON** · 05-09-2014, 10:08 AM

They have to kill them to be able to test them ( can't do it with them alive unfortunately)

**DCAVA** · 05-09-2014, 10:28 AM

What a scumbag, glad they caught the fool!!

**AvianQuest** · 05-09-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by liedtcr

I did not know you had to kill the deer to test for CWD. What a waste.

Maybe the Biologist on here will shed some light for us.

Wonder how big the pen was? Wonder what constituts a pen?

You have to remove the brain stem, which tends to kill them if they aren't already dead.

There is no real definition of a "pen" as far as size. TPWD conducted a raid on a deer breeder who had one deer that was improperly documented and was suspected to have been brought in from Arkansas. They herded about 80 deer into a 10-acre pen and drove around inside with two vehicles and two shooters and killed them all. It took them about 8 hours because the deer kept moving to the other side, but they finally wore them out. They were all tested for CWD but none were infected.

**Spec-Rig.006** · 05-09-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cynoscion

The deer were euthanized to test for CWD not because of CWD. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Yup. All CWD tests are conducted post-mortem, you have to remove a portion of the brain stem.

This guy BETTER have to pay restitution. I did think it was humorous though that the new casters were talking about deer and showing pictures of zebra and wildebeest.

Saw it a few days ago on the news.

**bigfishtx** · 05-09-2014, 11:54 AM

Guy has a long history of bad stuff. Beware of his hunts.

05-09-2014, 03:05 AM	#1
On The Hook Maker of laser engraved switch panels Join Date: Feb 23 2009 Location: South Texas Age: 51 Posts: 3,759 Rep Power: 21482991	Illegal deer breeder, and illegal hunting operation Seems this guy, convicted felon Fred Rich of Portland Texas, owner of lonesome bull ranch was arrested for allowing a hunter to kill a 22 pointe buck in an enclosed pen. According to news reports the ranch conducted deer breeding without permits, and 200 animals were euthanized for because of chronic wasting disease. This guy was kicked out of the Texas deer association several years ago. What a turd, I guess that he has found that crime does pay once again. http://www.kiiitv.com/story/25469665...ed-out-of-jail http://www.lsonews.com/busted-loneso...er-euthanized/ Last edited by On The Hook; 05-09-2014 at 03:10 AM.

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Capt. Marcus Canales Join Date: Aug 25 2005 Location: Cotulla TX and Baffin Bay TX Age: 44 Posts: 7,635 Rep Power: 21488146	I thought they were killed for testing, didnt know they actually had cwd?? Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk __________________ aka "osoobsessed"

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05-09-2014, 06:43 AM	#2
Cynoscion El Cazador de Venados Gigantes Join Date: Jun 04 2009 Location: Kingsville Age: 43 Posts: 1,691 Rep Power: 21480823	The deer were euthanized to test for CWD not because of CWD. BIG DIFFERENCE!

05-09-2014, 09:49 AM	#4
liedtcr Registered Users-pm+ Join Date: May 28 2013 Age: 38 Posts: 311 Rep Power: 6348361	I did not know you had to kill the deer to test for CWD. What a waste. Maybe the Biologist on here will shed some light for us. Wonder how big the pen was? Wonder what constituts a pen?

05-09-2014, 10:06 AM	#5
sotexhookset I love beer.... Join Date: Jun 04 2011 Location: to dam far from the coast Age: 49 Posts: 12,180 Rep Power: 21490582	Ugly mfer. What a pos.

05-09-2014, 10:08 AM	#6
FREON The C-LISTERS are coming Join Date: Jun 14 2005 Location: Corpus Christi Age: 69 Posts: 6,710 Rep Power: 21487293	They have to kill them to be able to test them ( can't do it with them alive unfortunately)

05-09-2014, 10:28 AM	#7
DCAVA Car Man Join Date: Aug 05 2013 Location: Harlingen, TX Age: 51 Posts: 10,698 Rep Power: 21488306	What a scumbag, glad they caught the fool!!

05-09-2014, 11:54 AM	#10
bigfishtx Registered Users-pm+ Join Date: Jul 17 2007 Age: 66 Posts: 7,384 Rep Power: 21487203	Guy has a long history of bad stuff. Beware of his hunts.

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