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Old 05-06-2019, 11:02 AM   #31
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Having been there keeping the fleet running in Poco all these years it has been interesting to see the decline-changes in the Texas fleet. Fewer big boats calling Texas home.
Some of this has to do with sales tax on multi million dollar boats. In 2010 Florida changed their tax law to have a cap of $18,000 in sales tax. Soon almost every state along the gulf and east coast followed suit. Texas has not. A brand new 66’ $5,000,000 boat here has a sales tax on it of $412,000. In another state that would be $18,000. This is part of the reason so many Texas guys boats now say Florida on the transom and stay in Costa Rica.

You can call your state representatives and request they support house bill HB 4032 and senate bill SB 1669 to try and get Texas back in the game. Right now the bill is stuck in the calendars committee and the session is almost over. It actually makes a big difference in the entire state and in particular the coastal communities we all love. These big boats spend a great deal of money everywhere they go and they are not coming here much anymore. Call and email your state rep. Support HB 4032.

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Right on. Imagine the boat manufacturers that might call Texas home if that changed. This tax has cost the state way more in revenue than it ever collected.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:57 AM   #32
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The Costa Rica trend is because of the FADs. And marina Pez Vela in Quepos.
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:32 PM   #33
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Always interested in hearing about the history involved in these tourneys. When were the haydays for POCO? Number of entries? Size of pots?
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Old 05-07-2019, 11:48 PM   #34
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Having been there keeping the fleet running in Poco all these years it has been interesting to see the decline-changes in the Texas fleet. Fewer big boats calling Texas home.
Some of this has to do with sales tax on multi million dollar boats. In 2010 Florida changed their tax law to have a cap of $18,000 in sales tax. Soon almost every state along the gulf and east coast followed suit. Texas has not. A brand new 66’ $5,000,000 boat here has a sales tax on it of $412,000. In another state that would be $18,000. This is part of the reason so many Texas guys boats now say Florida on the transom and stay in Costa Rica.




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Run me though this math. Or, sales tax is calculated by where you live?
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:17 AM   #35
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Also, about the time all the complaining started was when the fish pots were introduced, if I recall correctly. There was a lot of it.
Brandon was one of the most vocal. 😬😂
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Old 05-08-2019, 01:58 AM   #36
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Unless anyone kept stats it to prove otherwise, I’d guess there was also a huge decline in entries in the small to medium boat size range- let’s call it under 50 maybe 55. You don’t have the speed, range, live bait tubes, sonar capabilities. Done Deal upped the big marlin game.

At least 2 of the last 6 winners don’t make it back for weigh-in if they don’t cruise back at 35 plus knots.

Not POCO but my team on a big boat were guilty last year of running over 300 miles to fish off LA during Shootout. Fished Perdido during POCO and weighed the first fish Friday because we could do 34ish coming home, and then run back there to fish Saturday. Different game now and that’s not a tournament that I’d put my smaller, older boat in.

And that’s the other thing, the Texas tournaments need to decide what they want to be, big blue marlin only, blue marlin release, or combined blues, sails, and whites. Unlike the other gulf tournaments in other states, the Texas tournaments lost an identity, not to mention being extremely uncrowd friendly. Who wants to greet the boats at the dock to see guys hop off the deck with video camera in hand? Maybe play live video reviews on a screen... just spitballing here? Rockstar in Quepos, CR has gotten really popular and it’s all video release. Brian on Mojo ruffled some feathers when he won Lonestar with all the releases 7 years ago or whenever that was.

Anyway, that’s a lot of words to say that the Texas tournaments were and are probably splitting up the winnings into too many different pots. It’s one thing to put up 20,000 to win 500,000 or more, but a payout of a little over 100,000 isn’t going to cut it.
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What happened to the fun stuff we did at poco in the days, tight rope walk, chair battle, Rolex toss, lol


All needs to be brought back no go poco bag it baby
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Unless anyone kept stats it to prove otherwise, I’d guess there was also a huge decline in entries in the small to medium boat size range- let’s call it under 50 maybe 55. You don’t have the speed, range, live bait tubes, sonar capabilities. Done Deal upped the big marlin game.

At least 2 of the last 6 winners don’t make it back for weigh-in if they don’t cruise back at 35 plus knots.

Not POCO but my team on a big boat were guilty last year of running over 300 miles to fish off LA during Shootout. Fished Perdido during POCO and weighed the first fish Friday because we could do 34ish coming home, and then run back there to fish Saturday. Different game now and that’s not a tournament that I’d put my smaller, older boat in.

And that’s the other thing, the Texas tournaments need to decide what they want to be, big blue marlin only, blue marlin release, or combined blues, sails, and whites. Unlike the other gulf tournaments in other states, the Texas tournaments lost an identity, not to mention being extremely uncrowd friendly. Who wants to greet the boats at the dock to see guys hop off the deck with video camera in hand? Maybe play live video reviews on a screen... just spitballing here? Rockstar in Quepos, CR has gotten really popular and it’s all video release. Brian on Mojo ruffled some feathers when he won Lonestar with all the releases 7 years ago or whenever that was.

Anyway, that’s a lot of words to say that the Texas tournaments were and are probably splitting up the winnings into too many different pots. It’s one thing to put up 20,000 to win 500,000 or more, but a payout of a little over 100,000 isn’t going to cut it.
You pretty much nailed it on the head IMO. I'm not going to try and compete with boats with sonar capabilities, ability to run 35+ knots for 200 miles, and comprised of professional crews. Long over are the days of a 35' Bertram being able to compete on the same playing field as many of these boats. Done Deal and many other boats have brought catching a big blue during a tournament from simply dumb luck to something that can be replicated again and again. All it takes is money.

I believe that social media has been a main driver of the proliferation of the northern gulf tournaments. Only until a couple of years ago did Poco make any attempt at a social media presence (and poorly at that).


Tax on boat sales are based upon where the boat is registered. Registering the boat in Texas requires you to pay TPWD 6.25% of the sales price of the boat.
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So when did the entries peak?
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entries peaked when the price of oil was $130 barrel!
No fishing these tournaments just gives the Done Deal and Smooth Move more $$$ to buy faster boats with long 4000 gal. fuel tanks
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