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Old 01-21-2019, 09:32 PM   #11
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does your BMW have air ride ?
I would think that 25' Ranger would make it squat more than than the horse trailer....

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Ok, so I see the horse trailer is on your wife's BMW....
Question still stands though.
Do your BMW's have air ride ?

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No air ride. No helpers. No nothing. Factory. My big bay boat had over 1000 pounds of tongue weight at the sacles when i first got it and it still didnt squat it. (About 600 pounds tongue weight now measured at the scales.)

And trailer brakes or not.... high performance race inspired brakes with the low center of gravity will bring to a stop much better than heavy mass designed brakes. Brakes designed to bring down from 180mph will perform better than any truck brakes designed to bring heavy loads down from 80mph....etc. no matter how much weight.

That Ranger does not have functioning trailer brakes. My big bay boat didnt either when i first got it (does now.) Braking hard would still throw you into the windsheild and not push that SUV at all. It all works better than you think it should. It is not uncomfy at all to haul even when those big sleds dont have trailer brakes.

Like i said.....it hauls, stops, handles everything better than that big 3/4 Chevy ever thought about. I sold the Chevy to go to the BMW as a better choice.

Wifes had 18" wheels....mine has 19" wheels. Optical illusion with her wheels turned as well making it look squatty but it doesnt at all. And such a comfy cushy ride when towing compared to a truck.

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Old 01-21-2019, 10:39 PM   #13
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Towing capacity of a 2019 BMW X5 is:
How Much Can The BMW X5 Tow?
BMW X5 Towing Capacity: 5,952 pounds
BMW X5 Payload: 1,110 pounds
The 2018 BMW X5 towing capacity maxes out at 5,952 pounds, and 1,110 pounds of payload.

Towing above or even at maximum capacity is never recommended.

A 3/4 ton Chev trucks towing capacity is up to 23,000 lbs. Not sure that any SUV can tow the same as a vehicle specifically designed for carrying heavy loads. But I guess vehicle design engineers can be wrong though.

The diesel vs gasoline discussion is really one more of personal preference. IME, the gas engines will tow well enough to not be a difference in infrequent/intermittent towing. The diesel is better equipped for long term frequent heavy towing. Just my experience.
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Just an FYI...BMW the manufactrer rates the x5 at 7700 and 600 pounds of tongue weight.

BMW USA (they are the doing the importing) derates that to 6000 pounds towing and 600 tongue weight for the US market. Not sure why.

But the manufacturer rates to 7700.

My boat weighs 6500 empty. Much more fully fueled and loaded out. Towed many days a week all over Texas for well over a year and 40k miles about 90% towing as i am a full time guide in that boat living in Clear Lake/Webster area and guiding from Sabine to Baffin and numerous freshwater lakes inland as well.

Up to about 7500 pounds it is an animal and tows better than the trucks i have experienced towing the same load. Over 7500 get a truck for the heavy weights.

Fact is that a Corvette will tow any bay boat made better than any truck....if you disagree with it is because you have never done it. Yes over 7500 pounds the big trucks are much more stable with enough material strength to not bend under the mass.

But a the high performance SUVs have lower center of gravity, better stability, higher performance steering, higher performance brakes, higher performance suspension, much shorter distance from rear axle to hitch point. All of these go for a fantastic tow rig option with better performance and handling under all conditions. I have experienced it cuz i had and towed both side by side.

Had a Tundra owner swear i couldnt tow that boat with that car. I bet him titles on a hand shake that that BMW towed better....we did it. He conceded that it did in fact tow and handle and brake better....have yet to see that title though....

I am not trying to compare max towing or payload capacities at all. That is a stretch. But for towing any bay boat it simply is impressive and surprising how well it performs that relatively light towing task.

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i have a diesel cause thats what i wanted and i really cant justify it other wise i do tow a lot but could do it all with a gas burner he likes his X5 i like my big nasty goat
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Never thought I would do it, but went gas on the truck I just bought. Dodge 2500 6.4l Hemi. Could not be happier! Good mileage, lots of power. If I towed for a living I would go diesel. But I do not...
I had a similar experience to bw but I only put 3k-4k miles on a p/u a year so was looking for newish used ... had hoped to find a 3/4t 6.4 hemi but not too many when I was looking, so ended up with a 6.2 gasser ford and am happy ... handles my few tows per year much better than a 1/2 T ...
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Hello, I’m looking into buying a new truck. It offers both diesel and gas engine models. The thing is the $10k price difference. Do I need to go diesel to pull my rv, or is gas fine? Which is better and why? We’re not big rv’ers, maybe used twice a year. The boat on the other hand, gets used quite often. The rv is 32’ @9klbs ball n’ hitch travel trailer. Thanks.
like said gas will do it, diesel will do it better. If you do go with the gasser, make absolutely sure to get the lower gear ratios offered in the towing packages.
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Once you go with a diesel you won’t go back to gas especially if you plan to keep the truck a long time. Gas just does not have the pulling power a diesel offers.


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I agree.. No, I obviously don't NEED a diesel.. But when there's a trailer hooked behind it, even just a 22ft bay boat, you're happy that it is diesel. My dad is looking at getting a newer Duramax for himself after driving mine if that says anything.... lol
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Wow, a lot of great answers. Thanks. I'm currently in a 2015 5.3L Chevy Crew 1500 with the max tow package. I thought about a SUV with a 6.2L, but it won't safely tow the Rv. A few friends have recommended the Nissan Titan XD. The warranties sound great, but it's seems too good to be true (which I'm sure it is). As for new or used, I'm looking into new because I'll get a better interest rate, even though I'll be paying for depreciation. I read in another article here, that 15% below retail is considered normal, is that right? As for gas or diesel, I'm still weighing it.
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All bs aside, if the extra 10k is something you can handle, get the diesel. 9k on the hitch is no job for a 1/2 ton. You would look good in one of those new Chevys with the Duramax!
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