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Several years ago I bought a 650 acre ranch and high fenced it. This property is all native South Texas brush and is very thick and dense. After killing 95% of the native deer I brought in both bucks and does with superior genetics to try and improve the quality of deer on the ranch and have had tremendous success. All of these deer were just turned loose in the 650 acres. The original bucks (3) and does (9) that I bought were turned loose with tags in their ears so we could identify them from any native deer that may have escaped our initial harvest. These 3 bucks are now beyond their prime breeding and antler growing years and contribute nothing to the ranch because now there are much better deer of prime breeding age. In your opinion would you pay to shoot a 150 to 160 class wild deer that happens to have a tag in his ear or should I just eliminate them from the property on my own? These deer are wild animals and difficult if not impossible to find except during the rut. It would be nice to recoup some of my investment if possible but I just want to know how other people feel about this before I make my descision. I am split right down the middle and can see both sides and would like to hear other peoples honest opinions without this turning into a high fence low fence, pen raised bashing issue.
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I really don't see how you can make this comment without knowing anything about the property..they have 1 deer per 9.2 acers..how can you say thats out of control?? do you know what his browse line look like?? what type of volunteer forbes does the land have?? prescribed burns?? do they plant food plots, spring or winter?? maybe both..how many protien feeders are on the 650?? how many tanks are there?? By his post it doesn't sound to me like he is stumbling around in the dark guessing at his management plan... Walker
Big Mike M said:
I do not think you would have a problem selling those bucks. As far as a management issue, you need to start shooting some of your deer before things get out of hand. 70 deer on 650 acres is way to many. I hunt on 7500 acres and we have around 350 deer with a buck to doe ratio at 1:1.5. You should probably sell those buck and throw in a few does along with them. People will pay to hunt, especially if they can kill multiple animals. I would get some advice from a biologist on what your numbers should be and then let your heard grow.
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Soap, I don't claim to be a whitetail expert nor did I sleep at a Holiday Inn express last night but when you get a chance look up the term ''Line Breeding'' In the whitetail breeding world this ''inbreeding'' is actually what some ranches may want to strive for. The largest breeder bucks produced and the genetics their offspring carry are a result of letting the deer with the best genetics breed to their kin folk with the same genetics.. This allows them to keep the top blood line going without bringing in undesired genetics.. What I'm saying is that on this 650 ac. tract culling out the inferior and letting the best genetics inbreed may be the way to go...check it out...Walker
Soapeddler said:
You're going to have fathers breeding their daughters and brothers breeding their sisters; first cousins, etc. etc. etc. I know this may happen on low fenced and free range areas, but on a small ranch with no escape...it's guaranteed.

I'm no wildlife biologist, just my .02
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