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Twisted Reel Seat - Need Help!

2.4K views 6 replies 7 participants last post by  pinnaclemarine  
#1 ·
So I took my smaller trolling setup (Penn Mariner Stand Up Rod w/ TLD20) out fishing last weekend and hooked into a King. Under pressure, the cranking torque twisted the reel seat off alignment with the rod spine and guides. See pic below. It't not the most expensive rod, but I would like to try and fix it, if possible.

I am not familiar with rod building, but...

1) Would something like this be caused by the adhesive resin bonding the reel seat came loose and subsequently twisted under pressure?
2) I've tried twisting the reel seat back in alignment with a wrench but it will not budge.
3) Would heating the reel seat and trying to twist it back work?
4) If it does, what can I do to try and prevent this from happening again?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated it!

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Thanks in advance.
 
#2 ·
It was probably a combination of the heat softening the adhesive and the torque. Once cooled the adhesive hardened back up and has it locked down again. Personally I think it will happen again under the same conditions.

Not sure if just the hood moved or the wholes seat assembly....my guess would be the whole enchilada
 
#3 ·
You can try heating it to realign the seat, but be very careful not to get it too hot. You do not want to damage the blank. If you are able to get things realigned then you can drill a hole, or multiple holes in inconspicuous areas and with a syringe inject epoxy into the seat. If you do this, inject as much as you can, then allow things to setup for a day or two...
 
#4 ·
FIRST, contact Penn and tell them what happened. They should send u a new rod, unless it's like 100 years old. THis should not happen even on a $40 rod. The reel seat should be epoxied in the same way on a $1000 custom or a $40 off the shelf. It is not somethign that adds cost to a rod. if u buy a $40 rod and a cheap guide has the insert fall out, hey, that's what happens to $40 rods. But this should not.

btw This happened to me with a Star rod, and tehy replaced it.

D4 gave some solutions others have tried, and are your best options, but these are not optimal.
 
#5 ·
This makes a great case for spiral wraps on offshore rods. No reel torque and yes it should never happen on any rod. D4,s fix should work. You probably have hollow areas in the reel seat without epoxy. You should be able to tap on it to figure out the hollow spots and that's where you will want to drill the holes after you get it straightened out. I would use a 15 minute setting epoxy that will flow through a syringe then put tape over the holes till it dries. Make sure you use a syringe that does not have a lubricant in it or clean one out with acetone.
 
#6 ·
Even with a spiral wrap a rod built incorrectly with not enough glue the seat will turn or spin. Even more do on a very hot day. Best way for Elsie it is to remove the rear grip. Clean the area where the seat sits and reglue it. Replace the rear grip.
 
#7 ·
Permanent fix if you like the rod is to cut off the reel seat and replace it with a removable aluminum butt. Once the epoxy bond is broken, it is very difficult to inject any type of adhesive into the voids to get it to bond properly. This issue is becoming more and more common as reels get bigger, drags get higher, and the main culprit - reeling from rod holder. the continued side to side torsional stress will eventually exceed the elastic limit of the epoxy and the bond will break. If you do decide to attempt the epoxy injection into the seat, make sure it it a slow cure and it flows like water out of the syringe. Once the epoxy is in the seat, rotate it and do it again until you are sure you have good coverage. Line it up and hope for the best. If you are ever in San Antonio, Shoot me a Pm, stop buy and I will put a removable butt on it for you. Takes 5 minutes. Good luck with your project!