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Under .40 size ARF trainer with airelons and that will take a 4 stroke. I allready have a radio with standard size servos.

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Don't you already know how to fly Gary? Just wondering why you want a trainer.

That Goldbeg has to be the nicest looking Cessna style trainer going. Most people say Goldberg is great quality, however, I recently bought a CGM plane and was very disappointed in the quality. Maybe I just got a bad egg, who knows.

I had a Tower 40 trainer, and that was a very good flying plane, but not nearly as nice looing as the CGM. From what I've heard, the Tower trainer is an exact copy of the GP PT40, and it seems like just about everyone agrees that the PT40 is the best plane to learn to fly on.

I have heard a lot of bad things about Nitromodels in general, but I have also heard that with a little extra work, they can be made into good planes. Who knows?

If I were looking for a trainer now, there is only one I would consider, the H9 P51 PTS trainer. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN2845 Shoot, I wouldn't mind having one even though I don't need a trainer! There is one on Craigslist right now, they are asking $200 for it, already built with engine and servos! http://houston.craigslist.org/tag/848626881.html I am very tempted to buy it myself, but I already have too many planes lol.... By all accounts, they are every bit as good as they claim to be, and then some.

Actually there is one other I would recommend, and this may sound crazy, but I would actually recommend a Sig Somethin Extra as a good trainer. I have two SSE's, and let me tell you, they fly SO GOOD! On low rates, they are so gentle and forgiving, and super easy to fly, easily as easy as my Tower trainer was! But turn on high rates and it beccomes wild animal! Of all the planes I have flown, the SSE is by far the most confidence inspiring. I use 10-15 degrees of flaperons on mine, and it can sustain controllable flight at about 5mph! Using flaperons, it will simply amaze you at how gently you can land it. I think it is actually easier to land than my Tower trainer was, no kidding. Like I said though, only with very low rates. Turn the rates up, and this thing will kiss it's own tail with a flick of the stick. It's definitely a plane you can grow into.
 

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Don't you already know how to fly Gary? Just wondering why you want a trainer.

That Goldbeg has to be the nicest looking Cessna style trainer going. Most people say Goldberg is great quality, however, I recently bought a CGM plane and was very disappointed in the quality. Maybe I just got a bad egg, who knows.

I had a Tower 40 trainer, and that was a very good flying plane, but not nearly as nice looing as the CGM. From what I've heard, the Tower trainer is an exact copy of the GP PT40, and it seems like just about everyone agrees that the PT40 is the best plane to learn to fly on.

I have heard a lot of bad things about Nitromodels in general, but I have also heard that with a little extra work, they can be made into good planes. Who knows?

If I were looking for a trainer now, there is only one I would consider, the H9 P51 PTS trainer. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN2845 Shoot, I wouldn't mind having one even though I don't need a trainer! There is one on Craigslist right now, they are asking $200 for it, already built with engine and servos! http://houston.craigslist.org/tag/848626881.html I am very tempted to buy it myself, but I already have too many planes lol.... By all accounts, they are every bit as good as they claim to be, and then some.

Actually there is one other I would recommend, and this may sound crazy, but I would actually recommend a Sig Somethin Extra as a good trainer. I have two SSE's, and let me tell you, they fly SO GOOD! On low rates, they are so gentle and forgiving, and super easy to fly, easily as easy as my Tower trainer was! But turn on high rates and it beccomes wild animal! Of all the planes I have flown, the SSE is by far the most confidence inspiring. I use 10-15 degrees of flaperons on mine, and it can sustain controllable flight at about 5mph! Using flaperons, it will simply amaze you at how gently you can land it. I think it is actually easier to land than my Tower trainer was, no kidding. Like I said though, only with very low rates. Turn the rates up, and this thing will kiss it's own tail with a flick of the stick. It's definitely a plane you can grow into.
Justin, even if I became a great flyer, I would still choose a high winged plane. Truth is, I'm really not very good at flying. Or at least haven't had enough practice to get good at it. I bet I have built more planes that I have RC cars. lol The wierd thing is, I never flew many of them. I taught myself how, roughly to fly, with a PT.20 that I built with an undersized .15 that somebody gave me on a dead end street. I cant tell ya how many rolls of grey Monocote I went through before I finally put that plane to it's grave. :(

One of the reasons I was eyeballing the CG Eagle is because I built the kit before, I like the looks and the price is right. BTW, Nitromodels was really never a consideration, I was just seeing if yall was awake. :D

I may differ with you though on what the best trainer is. My vote would be the Sig Kadet LT40. Many might agree. Theres just no ARFs available right now.

But you figured me out! For the money, the Tower Hobbies MK2 seems to be an allmost exact copy of the PT40 and very cheap. I'm a little unsure about the quality of the covering as of yet. Risk we take I guess since it all comes from China.

My motor of choice might be a Magnum 46. Since I allready have a new radio, I think I can pull this off for under $400.

Thanks man!
 

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You may be right about the Kadet, I am just going by what I have heard.

I think the covering on the Tower was ok. Maybe not as high quality as Monokote or the like, but it gets the job done just fine I would say. I never had any problems with mine. Actually, I have had more problems with the Monokote and Ultracote peeling off my other arf's. I assume that was due more to the workmanship than the actuall covering though, I have re-sealed the peeling area's and they have not come back up. The tower graphics are silk screened on, not actually covering, so no peeling there. And of coarse you could always recover it to your liking if the need/want was there. Sounds like you have plenty of experience there.:work:

Tell you what man, I still have my OS 46 LA, it's yours if you want it. It has some battle scars from when my dad crashed my Tower, but it still runs good. No doubt the Magnum would be better, but hey, free is free!
 

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Shoot me your address and I will get it shipped out to you asap. The plastic remote needle bracket is broken, but I had it zip tied and it worked just fine. A new backplate would fix it, and only cost about 10 bucks if you want. Like I said though, it works just fine now, no need to fix it really. It only has about a galon and a half on it, pretty much just broken in.
 

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justinspeed79 said:
Shoot me your address and I will get it shipped out to you asap. The plastic remote needle bracket is broken, but I had it zip tied and it worked just fine. A new backplate would fix it, and only cost about 10 bucks if you want. Like I said though, it works just fine now, no need to fix it really. It only has about a galon and a half on it, pretty much just broken in.
I owe you one, thanks! :D
 

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No problem man. It's just sitting around collecting dust anyway, I'll never use it again. I'll try to get it shipped out this weekend.
I'm working on the plane now. Picked up a Hobbico Superstar .40 a little while ago. I had two choices for .40 size ARFs at the Sugarland shop. This one for $99.99 and covered with monocote or the Sig Kadet LT .40 for $159.99. So far I'm very happy with the Hobbico plane. The frame work is as good as I can possibly do and the covering is far better than I can do. LOL

I am very impressed with this ARF. I dont think this is Chinese.
 

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Cool. I wasn't able to get the engine shipped today, but I will give it to my dad to to stick in the mail first thing Monday. He works at the PO, and he can get it on the 5:30 am truck.Post some pics! :cheers:
 

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I have taught a lot of new flyers on this very airplane. You picked a very good one to learn on. When you get ready to fly it let me know and I will meet you somewhere and fly together. If you want I have a buddy box and chord and would welcome the opportunity to fly with you. If you need anything, servos, receivers, radio etc.. let me know I have what you need. I have been buying and selling models lately to fund my obsession.

Give e a call some time.
Larry
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Some pics from Bomber field last weekend.
 

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Yeah, it looks identical to the Tower plane. The covering appears to be a little better maybe. Are the colors actually trimmed on, not printed? Looks like I can see where they are overlapped on the wing. Should be a good flier!
 

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Yeah, it looks identical to the Tower plane. The covering appears to be a little better maybe. Are the colors actually trimmed on, not printed? Looks like I can see where they are overlapped on the wing. Should be a good flier!
Yea, they are trimmed out and not printed. So far its going together really fast and everything is square.

Hey Larry, you got it bro! While your out there look up an old friend of mine, Barry Raborn. Tell him your a friend of Biff's. LOL
 

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Hey Gary, the engine is on it's way. I shipped it out today, I completely forgot about it yesterday, sorry man! They said it should be there tomorrow. How's it coming?
 
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