i think they both look great , "dry", and i cant wait to try to fish them , depending on how large they are, they might take a beating from the casting action, and water, it seems that sometimes, the shrimp patterns with eyes and whiskers always seem to get beat up , and as soon as a trout or red hits them they get pumbled. But, as i said they look great, and i know, we will catch fish on them, good job