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How do you rig it?
Does it change the action?
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Single-hooking topwater plugs

Mike McBride did a piece that ran in TSFMag a year or so back entitled "Going Single" that should answer all your questions. The story can be found by browsing the archives section at www.tsfmag.com

Let me know if you need any further help, I might be able to email a PDF of the pages for you.

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Mike McBride did a piece that ran in TSFMag a year or so back entitled "Going Single" that should answer all your questions. The story can be found by browsing the archives section at www.tsfmag.com

Let me know if you need any further help, I might be able to email a PDF of the pages for you.

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Thanks; July 08 issue and just what I was looking for.
After My hunting and fishing mags start falling out of cabinets and drawers, I bag them up and take them to a retirement home for others to enjoy.
I had read that article and didn't realize I could go back to the archives like that.
Again, thanks.
 

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EJ has a great buy to take the mag on line for ~12/year. Free archives.

Problem is it is hard to print a page of interest on the new e mag.

Old articles you can "save as" to keep a copy on your computer.

New is hard to do.
 

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Single hooks on spook jr's

What size/brand hook?
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Does it change the action?
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We were in a bunch of redfish up in Jack's pocket a few summers ago. There was alot of suspended & floating grass with an outgoing tide. My buddy had a few spook jr's rigged with the single hooks. It was just about all you could throw without dragging in 5 lbs of grass with each cast. Worked great under these conditions & we got em pretty good. I stopped at Academy on the way home & made me some after that trip...
 

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I only use single hooks on tops for fishing heavy grass. Those little #1 & #2 Gamakatsu live bait hooks with the welded ring are expensive and rust too quickly.
 

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Kenny - I agree - I always go the cheaper extra split ring route. Believe it or not a small Kahle hook works equally well and much cheaper also. Even though I am a tackle junkie I'm always looking for a cheaper way.
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Thegam bulk pack over at Bass pro 25 for around 9-10 dollars.

Their Costal brand split ring bulk pack are cheap and good enough size in the #3 split ring.
 

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Check with ol Marshmudforbrains. He knows first hand what can happen when you change out to single hooks.

Biggie:D
 

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Check with ol Marshmudforbrains. He knows first hand what can happen when you change out to single hooks.

Biggie:D
So he loses the trout of a lifetime and it HAD to be the single hooks! If it makes everyone feel better then it's OK!:D
So Biggie, you never had a big trout come unbuttoned from a topwater with trebles?
 

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Do a search on Gamakatsu for all you want to read on this subject.

Trebles in floating grass ~ not many, if any fish.

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I've been fishing them for about 2 years exclusively and found that the hook up ratio may be a bit less when fish are less aggresive and slapping but have not had a fish come unbuttoned once hooked. Even when trying to unhook fish landed you can feel that they are buttoned well & takes some effort to unhook them. When the fish are aggresive, I have not seen any drop in hook up ratio when compared to trebles. I also agree with the corrosion comment.
 

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So he loses the trout of a lifetime and it HAD to be the single hooks! If it makes everyone feel better then it's OK!:D
So Biggie, you never had a big trout come unbuttoned from a topwater with trebles?
He lost a 30 inch Speck that blew a hole in the water the size of a VW Bug. You can view the Trout online on Capt. Kev's site. It's on the cover top right. I took the pic. Matt raised the fish only to lose him. Kev came in with an Amber/Ch Fatboy with trebles and gave us a look. When I held the fish it liked to yanked Kevins boga outta my hand. The fish wasa dinosaur.

Sure Kenny, I've had a Big Trout come undone with trebles....hence the reason NEVER to use singles Ever. You run singles for this winter and then report back your findings. I'll still be a smilin!

Biggie:biggrin:
 

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"Matt raised the fish only to lose him. Kev came in with an Amber/Ch Fatboy with trebles and gave us a look. When I held the fish it liked to yanked Kevins boga outta my hand. The fish wasa dinosaur."

Biggie, Not sure what you are saying other than he lost the fish. Did Kevin catch the same fish or let you hold a big fish on a boga?
 

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He lost a 30 inch Speck that blew a hole in the water the size of a VW Bug. You can view the Trout online on Capt. Kev's site. It's on the cover top right. I took the pic. Matt raised the fish only to lose him. Kev came in with an Amber/Ch Fatboy with trebles and gave us a look. When I held the fish it liked to yanked Kevins boga outta my hand. The fish wasa dinosaur.

Sure Kenny, I've had a Big Trout come undone with trebles....hence the reason NEVER to use singles Ever. You run singles for this winter and then report back your findings. I'll still be a smilin!

Biggie:biggrin:
I always kid Matt about losing the "fish of a lifetime". We all have one of those.
If you read my first post, I said I only fish a single hook topwater in heavy grass. Since there isn't any heavy grass in the winter it won't be a problem.
Keep smiling either way......
 

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Have you tried? Using a solid treble on the front and single GAM on the back?

For me this gives the best of both worlds. With a lot of grass floating this works well as most of the grass tends to hand up on the back hook. If you can walk on the grass then two singles.

Fishsmart carries two boxes: One for grass and single hooks and one for open water with trebles.

You are right. Fishfinder and I found some 17 -22 inch trout a time back and both with clown spooks I did not hook up as much with an earlier version of single hooks as Tim did with the std Trebles. The Gam hooks are heavier and shorter and that may make a difference. All my spook jrs are rigged with a single Gam on the back and a quality treble on the front hook. Freshwater and a mad bass did not seem to make a difference when I put the tw's to a test. Not too mad bass and it seemed to make a difference on the catch ratio.

I would just check my hooks after any big fish. Had another buddy down mid coast catch a big red or two then get his trout of a life time 30?+ and have the treble hook break as he was screwing aroung trying to hand grab him for the px off spook jr. We have all had a big red tear up a bait before.

Had a couple of flounder make a believer to check my line after every catch. :)
Kida like that old adage you never miss a little deer or small flouner. Its always the big ones. ;)
 

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Gamakatsu size 1 with a size 5 ss split ring from Aosco size 3 or 5.

Lost some nice trout on both tiple and single hooks.. Thats why its called fishing...lol
 

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single hooks are for the very very sporting kind............and that aint me I like to land what I make bite. We have all lost lots fish on all kinds of hooks for all kinds of reasons.......I will never miss another on a plug with singles again. I was fishing a slow sinking plug that was HAMERED and the fish came off. Was it the hooks I say yes. I like to fish plugs but use worms often because they will often draw more bites than plugs but I have alot more fish bite and stay on for few seconds and then pop off when fishing with worms and I say it is because worms only have one point. Do fish pop off of plugs with treble hooks yeah.......but not to often. The cool thing about fishing is we can all do the same thing in a way that we think is the best or the most fun or the most effective. So I hope that all of you move to singles cause there will be lots of fish for me to chase for a long time to come.LOL
 
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