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I bought a boat. I took a chance and bought one on Ebay... so, all I have to go on is the seller's word that I got what I want... It's a Ranger Bass Boat... with a 175 Mercury OB on the back... trolling motor... fishfinder... needs the carpet replaced on the floor... other than that, it's supposed (emphasis on supposed) to be in great shape. The motor has 40 hours since a rebuild, uses pre-mix gas which I like better than oil injection (don't trust those oil injection pumps), and it's on a relatively new trailer. I'm going to upload some pictures (I hope) and do a lot of praying that the seller is an honest man... here she is...

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Hawkey, You got pm.
I'm thinking about my options... Ebay is the SORRIEST business in the world for resolving troubled transactions... they basically tell you to work it out yourselves... you can't get ahold of a real person there... I've replied to their "automailer" with really stupid stuff that doesn't make any sense at all to experiment and you get the same answer no matter what you write. I bought a marine radio from a guy on Ebay. He took money for HUNDREDS of radios he never had... I figure about 16,000$ worth... Ebay did NOTHING.... PayPal refunded my money AFTER I contacted the FBI Internet FRAUD division and explained what happened... two weeks later, I get a call from the Sheriff in the town where the guy lived... he went to prison recently... I Don't know if I'll follow up on this in the same way. His mechanic would probably testify that "crankshafts break sometimes" and my case would be shot in the hips... I need them to decide it is in their best interest to help me. I just have to figure out how to accomplish my objective without making anyone mad... How do you get people to do the right thing, when the very fiber of their being is telling them that they have nothing left to do for you?

I'll figure it out... anyone know someone with a Merc upper half for sale? Or a complete motor 90-115 HP for sale? Let me know... I want to FISH with my kids
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Hawkey, I might be able to cut you a deal on a motor, as I will have a spare when I get this deck boat.I just need to thoroughly check it out. I will call my mechanic tomorrow about the top half. Do you think you can replace just the crank?

You would think that with all the business that they do on e-bay, and with the emphasis they put on honest transactions, they would be easier to deal with on things like that.
It's possible that a crank will be enough to fix what's wrong with it. I do not have the time, tools or patience (right now) to replace the crankshaft. There's a guy a few miles from me who works on motors at home, as well as for his job. I hear he's good, and works reasonably... I'll phone him if I get time tomorrow... He replaced a powerhead for a friend of mine two years ago... a couple of weeks later, the lower unit went out in the motor... he tooks it back and the guy replaced the lower unit.... total cost for powerhead and lower unit... $1500.00 The motor's running fine... that was an 85 hp Merc... so maybe he can replace the crank in my motor for a decent price. I don't need a NEW one, I just need one that isn't broke in two...

Let me know what you can do. Anything is appreciated... if it isn't a merc, I'll need controls too.... that's why I'm shopping mercs... I already have the controls... I'd put anything on there right now.. even a Chinese motor, if it runs... I'll also consider a small tiller motor, maybe 20 horse, to get me out and back until I get another "main" motor.... I can always use a trolling motor for stripers and walleyes...

Thank you sir.....
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Sorry to hear about the boat. Stories like this just reinforce my refusal to buy anything off of E-Bay.
I got to see it run... I took NightTrain for a boat ride... I don't know what happened.... maybe crankshafts do, just break... dern if I know. What makes me angry isn't that the motor is broken... it was that the guy I paid to buy the boat just stood there with his hands in his pockets and didn't say anything... if he'd offered to pay 100$ to help me, at least it wouldn't sting as much... I have to go to bed... tomorrow is an early day... getting up at three am.... thanks for letting me rant a bit... I'll get it worked out, maybe in the morning things will be a little more clear... 'night all.....
Not taking up for the guy for sure, but he was probably em-bar-assed as all get-out about the whole thing. But that don't give him a reason not to say a word. He could have at least reimbursed for the gas money :eek:hwell

Hawkeye, give me a call about 9:00 your tme Monday. I should know something by then.
Nikonos ... <Cough> There are good sellers on ebay ---- Like this guy for instance --

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=catfishsupplyco&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1

Hawkeye -- Man that stinks -- I got an old 50hp Merc that needs some attention ... However I do not think that would od you much good ..
Catfish said:
Nikonos ... <Cough> There are good sellers on ebay ---- Like this guy for instance --

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=catfishsupplyco&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1

Hawkeye -- Man that stinks -- I got an old 50hp Merc that needs some attention ... However I do not think that would od you much good ..
I've bought from that guy before (Catfish Supply Co.) and always got a decent deal...

How much "attention" does this 50 horse need? I have thought about buying a "small" outboard to get by until I get the bigger motor fixed or replaced.... Will it run at all? You can email me if you want to tell me the details... Forward Air ships into Richmond, so I could pick it up there if you'd be willing to ship to me... I just want to go fishing..... BAD
The motor is sound .. I believe it needs a new control box and it needs new wiring , as a lot of it has not domne well over time ... I bet that shipping would be unreal !!
Shipping generally runs 100-125$ from what I've been told for Forward Air... they only do airport to airport deliveries, I think... it depends on weight and dimensions of the shipment... I don't know whether my wiring and cotrols would work on a 50 or not, but I'd certainly find out if your serious about selling. Mudd_cat asked me to call him tonight about the possibility of him finding me a motor, so I'm trying to keep as many options (including a tiller steer recoil start motor if I find one reasonably priced) open as I can... If you want to talk about selling your outboard, I'd be happy to discuss it on the phone later tonight.... through email, or right here if you don't mind the rest of the planet knowing your business :)

Tom.... on his way to the house in ten minutes....
Tom ,

Explore your other options -- If you run into a dead end - email me ...
Hawkeye, got some insight from my man with the plan. He gave me a couple of things to do and try. The best news of all is that the probability is greater that the crankshaft is NOT broke, than it is. More likely, without him looking at it of course, is that the bearings have gone out. Especially since it will run at idle (you did say it would idle didn't you?)
There are a couple of things try before tearing it apart.

1. Take the spark plugs out. With someone turnin the flywheel BY HAND, use a long rod or screwdriver to feel each piston and see if it is moving in and out. Be careful not to get the screwdriver on the side of the cylinder walls.

2. Take the flywheel off, take the stator off, and inspect the bearings at the top of the motor, move the shaft side to side, up and down. There should be virtually no play any way.

Also, What horsepower is your boat rated for?
Do you feel like driving to MS?
Mudd_cat,
You can "wobble" the flywheel all around, like it's mounted to rubber or something... I'm pretty well convinced the crank's broken... the outboard guy never even hesitated when he said it was broken... My good friend Jerry, who works on engines all day long told me it was broken without even looking at it... just from the way I described it to him... and no, I don't really feel up to a ride to MS... No offense
I've spent more quality time alone in the car the past two weeks picking up and going back up to the mountains for this boat than I care to repeat right now... I may change my mind tomorrow, but for now I'm brousing the classifieds in the paper... checking our "Trading Post" (a local classifieds rag that comes out once a week, full of anything you want under the sun for sale) and checking with a few friends that have "connections" locally...
The boat is rated for 115 horsepower... it was greatly overpowered with the 175 on it, but it doesn't sit too low in the back, nor is the transom showing any sign of weakness as a result of having a mega-motor on it... I'll probably get a smaller motor if I don't fix this one... I don't know what I'm doing right now other than waiting and exploring options.... nothing concrete in the works as of yet...
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U need 2 go feeshin'.
I should have changed the title of the thread to "My New Boat SUX"
YES I DO need to go fishin' and I need to do it in MY BOAT... I'm thinking about hauling the other boat out this weekend for some catfishing... I can hook her back up and be fishin' ready in two hours... if I run solo... which is probably the best thing I can do to relax.... unless you feel like night fishin the James wit me...
Hey Man...

...love to do the James.Can't be this week...FRI:Bruce Hornsby & the Range concert in Raleigh,NC....THURS.Dolphins vs.Redskins(preseason-tv)...Sat.:cut grass/Scrub crud off bottom of the boat.....Sun.:Enjoy some sunshine/search for "cheerleaders in bikinis"party.......my life sucks.:dance:
Catfish said:
Nikonos ... <Cough> There are good sellers on ebay ---- Like this guy for instance --

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=catfishsupplyco&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1
Sorry brother, I thought you only sold from your site. Please understand that I will contact you directly when I can afford a large enough order from CSC. I do a lot of purchasing online and I know that there are some awesome deals to be had on ebay, but I have heard enough horror stories from reliable sources to keep my money out of their hands.
mudd_catt said:
Hawkeye, got some insight from my man with the plan. He gave me a couple of things to do and try. The best news of all is that the probability is greater that the crankshaft is NOT broke, than it is. More likely, without him looking at it of course, is that the bearings have gone out. Especially since it will run at idle (you did say it would idle didn't you?)
There are a couple of things try before tearing it apart.

1. Take the spark plugs out. With someone turnin the flywheel BY HAND, use a long rod or screwdriver to feel each piston and see if it is moving in and out. Be careful not to get the screwdriver on the side of the cylinder walls.

2. Take the flywheel off, take the stator off, and inspect the bearings at the top of the motor, move the shaft side to side, up and down. There should be virtually no play any way.

Also, What horsepower is your boat rated for?
Do you feel like driving to MS?
SOmething I have never considered in this, and I don't think it was possible for me to think about in my previous anger-clouded state of mind, was pointed out to me by a friend this afternoon.... Maybe the same thing your mechanic friend was getting at... Yeah, I can wobble the FLYWHEEL around like the crankshaft is broken, but it doesn't make any sense that I can still start the boat if the crank is broke... he suggested that the flywheel may have come partially loose and the noise/vibration from the loose flywheel is the source of the problem... It won't cost me a dime to pull it and check, so I'm heading home to think about it. One of the members of our church passed away Sunday, and the visitation (wake for Yankees) is tonight. I have to attend, so I probably won't get the boat looked at this evening. This could be extremely good news.

Mudd_cat.... my sincerst apology for blowing you off like I did last night on the suggestion the crank might not be broken... I am VERY sorry I didn't pay closer attention to what you wrote... I'm thinking the mechanic I took it to might have known all along the crank wasn't broke... if it isn't of course... he might have been trying to hit me for another $1000... they could have left the dern flywheel loose KNOWING this would happen... who knows.
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