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BS. No humans lived in the late Cretaceous period. We can only date something like ourselves back about 3,000,000 years. As no accredited scientist has ever been offered a chance to inspect this "footprint" and the owner of it claims to have discovered it after clearing away some debris and filling - how is anyone to know that he did not just carve this footprint in for fun!

Now if you do not believe in radioactive decay timing and and believe the earth is is young and we started from an adam and eve about 7,000 years ago -well??? - most folks with a background in histroical geology like me - just believe god's timing has no relationship to ours. Additionally, the Glenrose limestone is full of fossils - why are no large human fossils seen in the historical record from this formation just dino bones and seashells (no human teeth, large bones or stone tools).

The Glen Rose Limestone formation is part of the Trinity Group of Lower Cretaceous Rocks. The famous beds containing dinosaur tracks in the Glen Rose, Texas area are near the base of the Glen Rose formation, at or near the Aptian/Albian boundary, dated at approximately 110 million years. The Glen Rose formation was deposited during the periodic retreat and advancement of a large shallow sea, which may be considered the ancient gulf of Mexico. The deposits represent low subtidal to supratidal environments and typically exhibits alternating beds of hard limestone and softer marl (limy clays and shales).

Some common types of fossils in the Glen Rose formation include A. Ammonites (coiled-shelled animals related to squid), B. serpulid worm tubes[/B], snail steinkerns (internal molds) such as C. Tylostoma and D. Anchura, bivalves such as F. the oyster Texigryphea[/B], G. the scallop Neithea (left), and the clam Lima waconensis (right), H. Various clam steinkerns, often called "deer hearts" by locals; I. regular (round) urchins, J. heart urchins, and K. Porocystis, which looks like a ball with many small pores and a larger opening at one end. It has often been mistaken for a sponge, but is actually an algal fruiting body. No official permission is given to collect at road cuts in the Glen Rose area, but here is a map showing some outcrops where fossils have been collected in the past. Be sure to check different areas and levels of a roadcut. Sometimes the fossils are very unevenly distributed. For more information on Texas fossils see Field Guide to Fossils of Texas by Charles Finsley, Gulf Publishing Co., Houston, TX, 1996, or any of the Texas Paleontology Series of fossil guide books from the Houston Gem and Mineral Society. For more information on the stratigraphy and geology of the Glen Rose formation, see the North-Texas stratrigraphy page at www.cretaceousfossils.com
 
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Let's see the 1st pryramids were build in ~2800 bc in Egypt - no dino bones or pictographs seen in cravings. They did crave elephants, lions, crocs and other africain game species - cave pictographs in North American dated back to 10,000 Bc also show buffalo, bears, deer, elk - no dinos. I expect ancient man would have documented something so weird and strange in their art.
 
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So, when was it that man domesticated dinos?

Must have been during the middle earth period. They aught to check that rock of hobbit, troll, elf, wizard, and dwarf DNA.

On a related note, if the Noah's flood was around 4500 years ago, are you claiming the pyrimids were built before or after the flood?

Maybe all those domesticated dinos just would not fit in that ark. I bet thats it. Left them behind to be swallowed up by the flood, cause we all know none of those dino's could swim or fly.
 
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FlakMan said:
Let's see the 1st pryramids were build in ~2800 bc in Egypt - no dino bones or pictographs seen in cravings. They did crave elephants, lions, crocs and other africain game species - cave pictographs in North American dated back to 10,000 Bc also show buffalo, bears, deer, elk - no dinos. I expect ancient man would have documented something so weird and strange in their art.
I THINK THE DINO'S WERE SHY AND DIDN'T WANT TO BE SEEN. PROBABLY DIDN'T LIKE ARTISTS EITHER.
 
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labdog said:
I THINK THE DINO'S WERE SHY AND DIDN'T WANT TO BE SEEN. PROBABLY DIDN'T LIKE ARTISTS EITHER.
LOL. yep these guys must of been very shy:

Anatomy: This theropod dinosaur had a bulky body, a big head with powerful jaws, sharp teeth, and a stiff tail. Its front legs were tiny. T-rex was about 15 to 20 feet (4.6 to 6 m) tall and was about 40 feet (12.4 m) long. It weighed roughly 5 to 7 tons. T. rex probably had about 200 bones, roughly the same as us (no one knows exactly how many it had, since no complete T. rex skeletons have been found).

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I am calling BS with this reasoning:

It is well established that Dinos where singificantly larger then man. Based on the impressions the animal "foot" impression is about 4-5 times bigger suggesting it is similar to an elephant in size.

So I would guess this impression was made by an animal with a weight of around 5K pounds. Man has gotten larger through the years but let assume 200 punds for man (make the math simple). So when the dino stands it could have been on 4 legs or 2 legs (1 or 3 if walking) based on our knowledge of Dinosaurs. So the Dino had a weights of 1000 pounds, to 2500 pounds per foot if stanind and 1700 to 5000 pounds it walking. Hence, the dinosaurs imprint was made by somethign that weighed 5 to 25 times more the human. Now this was made in mud that was soft enough for man to leave a deep imprint which one would believe the Dinosaur sould have sunk right into! Hence the depth of the two imprints as not inline with the weight of both species.

The statement made in the artical that they are impressions and not carvings, which is to convience us it is real. But we must remember that it is possible to "make" limestone and in fact it is done commerically all the time. So yes to could be a hoax.

Now looking at the total story line, when he first found the fossil 8 years ago, then let it lay around until May of this year and suddenly discovered the second print? I dont think so as anyone with a new find would have had it home checking it out. In addition, this fossil just happen to be on a rock that they could carry away? I dont think so!

So I say we call up CCA and get them to use their polygraph on all 3 of them! :D
 
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Well if we take their assumption at face value that it was a juvenile Acrocanthosaurus then it would be about the right size, but no one has confirmed that is the animal that left the footprint. In fact none of the other footprints found have been tied to Acrocanthosaurus because of a lack of other evidence in the area for the animal. PLus there were several dinosaurs that were 6-8ft at maturity. I think what it boils down to is if you believe this sort of thing it is a simple matter of faith, if you "prove" a matter of faith it is no longer a matter of faith. So the question really is why are some so bent on "proving" a matter of faith? Something that can't be done. You can't prove Jesus was resurrected from the dead or that there was an immaculant conception, but that doesn't mean it didnt happen and those that take that as a matter of faith that I know don't need proof, it doesn't affect their acceptance of it as a matter of faith. In fact there are many that believe that any such "proof" is necessarily false because God wouldn't let it happen. It takes away the whole free will issue.

Piledriver said:
I am calling BS with this reasoning:

It is well established that Dinos where singificantly larger then man. Based on the impressions the animal "foot" impression is about 4-5 times bigger suggesting it is similar to an elephant in size.

So I would guess this impression was made by an animal with a weight of around 5K pounds. Man has gotten larger through the years but let assume 200 punds for man (make the math simple). So when the dino stands it could have been on 4 legs or 2 legs (1 or 3 if walking) based on our knowledge of Dinosaurs. So the Dino had a weights of 1000 pounds, to 2500 pounds per foot if stanind and 1700 to 5000 pounds it walking. Hence, the dinosaurs imprint was made by somethign that weighed 5 to 25 times more the human. Now this was made in mud that was soft enough for man to leave a deep imprint which one would believe the Dinosaur sould have sunk right into! Hence the depth of the two imprints as not inline with the weight of both species.

The statement made in the artical that they are impressions and not carvings, which is to convience us it is real. But we must remember that it is possible to "make" limestone and in fact it is done commerically all the time. So yes to could be a hoax.

Now looking at the total story line, when he first found the fossil 8 years ago, then let it lay around until May of this year and suddenly discovered the second print? I dont think so as anyone with a new find would have had it home checking it out. In addition, this fossil just happen to be on a rock that they could carry away? I dont think so!

So I say we call up CCA and get them to use their polygraph on all 3 of them! :D