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I have something to share and I need to get it off of my chest. I miss TTMB very much. This new place... this new personality... it is not what we were - what we have been. It is angry and ugly at times. It is arrogant. It is just unkind and intolerant. The occassional disagreement has become the daily norm. Why? What has changed? It's an election year. We have had election years before. Our differing views have never divided us so.

Where are CoolChange, Walkin' Jack, Reel Woman, *********, Vitamin Sea, Becky, Fishnut, Farmer Jim, Bassfreaks, ReelWork, Frauline, EZ ED, bg?? The list could go on and on. I suspect to a large extent, that these folks are fading away because there is just a nasty mood to the board most days. They are still around. They are just not posting like they were.

Gary tried to get this point across the other day and it just went right back downhill. Let's try to get some of that magic back that has developed this great group of anglers into a great group of friends.

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I agree Jan

something has happened, I don't know what but feel it and has been like this for a couple months. I think it started back in June when we were all locked in from the rain and for some unknown reason never seemed to recover. I think alot of people do not wish to share their thoughts any more because there are always some harsh remarks to follow. I have seen this before, sometimes there is no recovery and people leave. I truely hope this is not the case and that somehow that special bond gets healed. It's all about family, friends and some safe fun. Think about all the positive things that have happened. There are some great people here that I'm proud to call friends.
 

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an outsiders perspective!

Jan, Let me first say, we have never met in person, or i have not atttended any gathering yet, but one thing i have come to know is, i have known you guys from afar, i mean the TTMB family, and one thing i have found is that you guys are a family! I find myself coming to this site to read the stories or threads as you call them, and i really get the feeling that you guys are a pretty neat bunch o folks, so from and outsiders perspective.
youse guys are toooo coooollll.....

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I am still here

I read on a daily basis, because TTMB is part of my extended family. While I have nothing to contribute to the board, I just can't stay away, because since our move away from the coast, this is about the only way I have to keep up with what the rest of the family is up to. Vernon hasn't fished in well over a year due to his job and we have now found a new hobby in motorcycles. They seem to fit our new locale better than the fishing equipment. lol

I don't know what is up with all the hostility lately, maybe it's to be blamed on the heat. But, I do think that the basic underlying goodness of this board is still very much alive. Mont still has a very special place here, and as in most all aspects of life, there are gonna be times when there are a few people who just can't stand to see a good thing and will do their best to ruin it. I think the moderators do a great job of cleaning up their messes. Mont has gone out of his way to create boards for just about every sport and event and to accomodate just about everyone, but it is impossible to please everybody all of the time. So, there are gonna be those that try to keep the pot stirred and that is a fact of life that I think everyone accepts. One thing about it though, some of the founding fathers of TTMB might be a lil quiet around the house lately, but then that's a great thing about the friendships on this board, they don't just exist online.

Just look at it this way, there have been many a scuffle here over the years, some get wounded, even some of the good ones, but they almost always come back.

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I by no means was around in the beginning but came along not too long after. I have felt like you, Jan, every 6 months or so when Mont has had a growth spurt. Its usually after another board "burns on re-entry" and the migration comes. But that migration and word of mouth has added alot to this board. But I've made some friends here. I won't name any names cuz I don't want anyone to think I like them, but we are all better for it.

I appreciate the moderators who have moderated me more than once. Its always been for my own good, too...

How many times has this board helped you? Got an A/C question? Got a computer problem? If your yard needs help (www.texasgreendreams.com, uh, sorry), got a legal question, need a grease monkey or whatever...You can lean on your kinfolk and they come through....everytime. And you know what else? Sometimes they will put you on some fish!

Just like in your family, you have annoying cousins (or is that you? lol) aunts, uncles...whatever. Not every single person sees things the same way in that case or this one. I know many of you are thinking that the annoying one is me and I need to go back under whatever rock I popped out from under, so I will...

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I'm still here! :D

I'm in Florida (Tampa) and keeping busy here. Jan, I hear you though - you're right about it, this is a slightly different place, but things ebb and flow just like the tides. I know you know this already.. Again, I hear ya and agree.

Think about it though, Rex is an upstanding member now, whoda thunkit! (No offense Rex, actually this is a compliment.. )

Later,
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It does seem to have changed. Perhaps there should be a "political" or "general discussions" forum like no TKF. Those of us who rant and rave about politics there don't do it in the other forums. I don't do it here because there is no forum for it and as always, fishing comes first!
BTW, I'm not saying that Mont SHOULD do it. I'm just throwing it out there for consideration. After all, if you really want to get political, there are many sites for that sole purpose. This is for fishing.
 

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Jan, it's just something that happens. Boards change. People move on. New folks move in. I think that the moderators on this site do a bang-up job of maintaining civility. There's still not a better place on the i-net.

I've been here since the beginning. I don't post often but I read several times a day. Like Texas weather, just stick around and it will change.
 

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Hmmmmm... thanks for the info... It had escaped my notice. I usually only visit here, the Bluewater, Coastal Shark and Recipes.. I'll peruse the political board...
 

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Back in '98, when all this started, I never had any idea it would grow into what is has. I was tired of getting deleted on another board, and threw together a little yellow board using the only script I knew how to run to make it happen.

About the same time, I found what I consider the best webhost on the planet, FutureQuest, being run by a husband and wife literally out of their garage. TTMB grew, not by advertising, but by simple word of mouth, folks came and went, and in general TTMB became known as a place where you could laugh about the good times, find a shoulder to cry on during the bad ones, and was not so much a fishing board as a board of folks that liked fishing.

We had gatherings in the face of howling northers, under the hot August sun, and even once during a Pacific hurricane that somehow found it's way to Pt. Aransas. Through it all, we continued to grow, and I had to grow my talents to stay ahead of the curve. Some here will remember the old webbbs script and it's departure, the old format, the way we were. I truely thought the changes would be the end of us, but I was wrong. Others have only known this place as it is today.

Earlier this year, I had to move the site, to another server. That pained me deeply, as I consider Deb and Terra who own FutureQuest good friends and a large part of the reason we were able to do what we did. But, I had outgrown their ability to service this site and didn't want to continue to cause them problems. Shortly thereafter, disastor struck and 80,000 posts and over 3000 memberships went to byte heaven. Again, I figured that would be the end of all this, but y'all proved me wrong and we are once again approaching 2000 members and take 400 or more posts each day in stride. My obligations to SCA Texas, my work, and my family, have made it necessary to ask several of you for help moderating and while that's ruffled some feathers here and there, it's one thing that has allowed us to continue. I simply cannot do it all by myself anymore.

To say the old TTMB is gone, is partly true. Sure, it's not a little bitty speck on the internet anymore. We took 27 million hits last month, and all through the day, anywhere between 100-200 folks are browsing, posting or just lurking. But what TTMB has always stood for, I still see every day. When Kay asked for help with her sons marriage, she got help and more. When Debbie passed, we all cried together in her church. When Eric actually picked a good weekend for the POC gathering, lots and lots of us showed up and Donna covered my back so I could make it down. When I was in the hospital with Stacy for 3 days, I didn't have to worry about coming back to a mess on the board, things were running smoothly and I found comfort in each and every post wishing us well. When I see Aunt Joyce posting pics of her and her pupper, it makes my heart warm to know that this is the place she calls home on the internet.

TTMB isn't mine anymore, it's all yours and it's yours to make what you wish of it. Sure, I turn the wrenches when the bolts fall out, and arrange the server space, and coordinate the sponsors, but that's the little stuff.

I ask each of you a favor. Think about the other person, think about the day they might be having or what they might be going through and try and make this place one that all of us are proud of and proud to have our friends, kids and spouses be a part of. That's the TTMB of the future, and one that comes right from our past.
 

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What I dislike the most...

There's been maybe 4 gatherings in the past 2 years. I know one year we had 6 gatherings!! What happened? In my opinion these gatherings allow you to really get past the names on the board and to the actual person. It's great knowing people through TTMB here, but once you meet them in person it's like you truly have a friend for life. Had it not been for TTMB I wouldn't know the people I know today or developed the friendships I've developed.

There's a lot of people( new people mostly) that have no clue what a gathering is. They come here to read the boards, glean some information on fishing or anything else they fancy, and go about their ways. They're not looking for fishing buddy or friendship, just the info they need. Which is not a bad thing, but for those of us who have been here for such a long time, it is hard to accept. It's almost impossible to ask for advice anymore without getting slammed. Pathetic! If you can't add something to a post that answers the question, don't bother with it. The worst part is some of the ones that are guilty of that come back the next day complaining about where the board is headed. Go look in the mirror pal!!

We've had one Gathering this year and this year will come and go, and we will have had only one Gathering. Frankly, I was disappointed at that gathering. The weekend was fun, Gathering wasn't like old times. perhaps I'm searching for something that doesn't exist anymore, I don't know.

However, I resign from the POC Gathering, I'll help with it next summer, but beyond that, I'm through with it.

Have fun slamming this post as well!

See ya!

Get Wild

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I hate to hear that, Eric

I only got to attend the first POC gathering, but it is THE most memorable one that I ever attended. That gathering, I went offshore for the first time and to tell the truth, really haven't enjoyed fishing since. It's hard to top being offshore, and if I am gonna fish, that is where I want to be.

You have to think of it like this. In between gatherings, real life happens. Job changes, moves, new families, loss of loved ones, and even the weather affect the gatherings. In fact, I think LoboJim is the only TTMBer left in the Pt. A area.

Look at you...you are away at college. I am sure that your schedule is harder to manage these days too. So when a gathering happens, whether it's with 5 people or 105, you gotta make the best of them and the memories that comes with it.

I don't know what happend in POC to make you feel this way, and I am certainly not gonna try and change your mind on how you feel, but I DO know that your efforts in putting together the offshore gathering never went unappreciated!

I hope you understand what I am saying...I am not slamming you at all, I just hate to see an end to a great thing.

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Last year was great for gatherings....between the fundraisers, regular gatherings (TCD, etc), jams, etc., I think I was hanging out with TTMB members literally every weekend for about five months! I sure hope to be able to make it down for another big one soon...maybe the TCD gathering next year?!? Once we get this election year behind us, it'll be time for a huge gathering! ;)
 

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Out side looking in....

I'm a CCCF at heart but I've enjoy this board from a distance for about 3 years.
I live in Austin and the CCCF bored and this board are my only link to the Coast.
I just recently signed up and started contributing. I've seen some Slamming and thats going to happen anywhere. Some times people just get bored and just want to raise some hell. Its all in how you respond to it. Momma always told me to just smile and keep my mouth shut...OOPs!!!!

Sorry Mom....:frown:

Hey B-Bill, I thought you were a detective!!!:cop: You should have known about the "Other Board". You a sleep again?
 

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We've had one Gathering this year and this year will come and go, and we will have had only one Gathering
Eric, we have had 3 gatherings and 1 fundraiser this year so far, the year ain't over yet, we still have Flounder season....

1: April 17 Pregathering beach party (I set it up)

2: June 12 Beach gathering (Stargazer set it up)

3: May 15 TOBA fundfaiser (a bunch of us hosted) lol

4: July 31 POC gathering (you hosted)

Ok, lets get another planned, September might be nice weather ????
 

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Long hot summer...

Being a moderator on a board myself, I have seen this year as the worst for the bickering, slamming and just plain trolling. The only explaination I can offer is it's been a long hot summer. Hopefully, fall is not far away.
 
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