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Check this out it was in the State Comptrollers "Fiscal Notes"this month.
http://www.window.state.tx.us/comptrol/fnotes/fn0407/hog.html
http://www.window.state.tx.us/comptrol/fnotes/fn0407/hog.html
Hog Wild in Texas
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I've heard for many years that the hogs are reaching epidemic porportions. I can't figure it out cuz everyone is still trying to charge what I fell are high prices to hunt these critters. If the damage and disease was that bad, I would think landowners would be jumping thru the hoops to get folks to come and hunt them. Maybe I'm just not hearing about these deals or maybe the landowners don't feel its out of control yet.
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Hogs
I noticed just this past year that the lease I hunt in just north of Alice, Tx. was way over populated with hogs. At one time during the full moon phase my father-in-law, brother-in-law, and myself had 30-50 hogs under each of our feeders at the same time at around 10:30am. I would estimate 120-150 hogs were feeding in the late morning hours during the full moon phase. That's the only reason we were probably able to see how many hogs were on the property. We have never really attempted to trap hogs in the recent year and I believe that's why they reached such high numbers. If you don't have a hog trap get one. Put the nastiest and stinkiest corn(place corn,beer,and milk in bucket and let it spoil) you can think of and place in trap, they won't resist.
I noticed just this past year that the lease I hunt in just north of Alice, Tx. was way over populated with hogs. At one time during the full moon phase my father-in-law, brother-in-law, and myself had 30-50 hogs under each of our feeders at the same time at around 10:30am. I would estimate 120-150 hogs were feeding in the late morning hours during the full moon phase. That's the only reason we were probably able to see how many hogs were on the property. We have never really attempted to trap hogs in the recent year and I believe that's why they reached such high numbers. If you don't have a hog trap get one. Put the nastiest and stinkiest corn(place corn,beer,and milk in bucket and let it spoil) you can think of and place in trap, they won't resist.
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We don't trap them either on our ranch. But, it's because we shoot more than we really need as it is. We really don't want to fool with anymore.
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Hog Problem
Up here in Montague County we have seen a dramatic increase in hog numbers over the last 4 or 5 years. There have always been a few in this area, the old men say there Grandpa's used to kill a few in the late 1800's, but there weren't near as many as there are now or even 10 years ago. I think it is because of all the feeders and food plots we provide for deer. This makes the land support more hogs. I have a group of 30 or so that hits my feeders everynight. I have about 10 big old mean Bores that we see by themselves occasionally to. I saw 70 in one group once trotting across our East pasture at dusk, lots of them were piglets. They are very nocturnal up here and we dont see them much in the daytime. Here are some pics of the infestation, one taken with one of our Game-Cams, one of the big nasty bore with my camera while turkey hunting. I get more pics of hogs with the Game-Cams now than of deer. Usually out of 24 pics on a roll, 15 will be hog herds.
Up here in Montague County we have seen a dramatic increase in hog numbers over the last 4 or 5 years. There have always been a few in this area, the old men say there Grandpa's used to kill a few in the late 1800's, but there weren't near as many as there are now or even 10 years ago. I think it is because of all the feeders and food plots we provide for deer. This makes the land support more hogs. I have a group of 30 or so that hits my feeders everynight. I have about 10 big old mean Bores that we see by themselves occasionally to. I saw 70 in one group once trotting across our East pasture at dusk, lots of them were piglets. They are very nocturnal up here and we dont see them much in the daytime. Here are some pics of the infestation, one taken with one of our Game-Cams, one of the big nasty bore with my camera while turkey hunting. I get more pics of hogs with the Game-Cams now than of deer. Usually out of 24 pics on a roll, 15 will be hog herds.
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My opinion only but you need to lay waste to those hogs. Remember they are "feral" as in not native. I kill 'em on sight, without exception, as many rounds as I can get off into the herd. They will definately impact deer movements. Ever been in a deer stand wathcing a feeder with deer at it and all of a sudden they spook and run off and 5-10 minutes later here come the hogs? Killing the babies is expecially fun ( and tasty) watching momma freak out. Sling some lead at 'em.
My opinion only but you need to lay waste to those hogs. Remember they are "feral" as in not native. I kill 'em on sight, without exception, as many rounds as I can get off into the herd. They will definately impact deer movements. Ever been in a deer stand wathcing a feeder with deer at it and all of a sudden they spook and run off and 5-10 minutes later here come the hogs? Killing the babies is expecially fun ( and tasty) watching momma freak out. Sling some lead at 'em.
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Yeah, we have started seeing pigs on our dove lease in Young county. I think that I will wait until the weather cools off before I start way-laying them. Have been seeing lots of Quail as well as doves. You cant hardly beat the taste of a fresh 80 lb sow on the bar-b-que pit. It looks like it is shaping up to be a good year for all types of hunting.
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uncDunc- Believe me there is no shortage of pork in my freezer. Or any my hunting partners. These hogs are heavily hunted and are very cunning, much more cunning than deer. They will move out of an area once you go in and leave your scent around. They have a dang good sense of smell and can wind you 300 yards away. They seem to be much more cunning than ones I have hunted in other parts of the state. They are European-Feral- and imported Russian's, and a mix of all together. They have been heavily trapped and hunted up here for years and just keep multiplying. They seem much smarter than the hill country ferals. Lots of people have hunted for them for 3 days on this place and never saw one, but during that same 3 days, my Game-Cams will take pics of hundreds of them. Wherever they go hunt, the hogs move to another area of my place unseen, unheard. As far as killing for fun, I never have and never will. I dont get any fun out of killing. I hunt to put food on the table. In my opinion, killing just strictly for fun is very, very, wrong. Why waste the meat, it is absolutely deliscious, much better than venison.Dunc said:
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A buddy shot a piglet couple years along with a couple more and we already had couple deer hung...anyway so we get to the processor and the guy sez No don't give the piglet to me... tie him up tight in a flat circle so he'll fit in one of those little round smokers, keep him wet, and smoke him whole... he drew a crowd from the neighborhood !!! Dang that was good!! We put piglets in the freezer whole whenever possible now.
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sea slug im with you on killing just for the fun of it but if we as hunters do not contain the hog population especially here in east texas. are native will suffer. the deer population has declined on are lease but are hog have grown. i read some were if you can not harvest at least 60 % of the hog population every year on your land or lease you will never get it unuder control. but im with dunc i kill every pig i see. i ask if any one wants it if nobody does we drag them off for the coyotes and cats.
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Killing for the fun of it is not my thang either...but killing, harvesting, culling...whatever you want to call it is necessary....hogs tear up farm land, deer feeders, ect. causing alot of damage with their rooting. I agree with shooting them and feeding to the buzzards if you can't give them away...usually no one wants the boars but you can find someone alot of the time to take a sow.....by the way they do eat newborn fawns whenever they get the chance....a boar usually will kill one and eat it where a sow will kill several to feed her and her babies.
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Hog Control
We shoot all we can but we keep them, except for an occasional rank boar. You hurt your deer hunting far worse than the hogs do if you go around blasting hogs right before or during deer season, you can kiss your big old smart bucks goodbye, because they will head to greener pastures with the hunting and shooting going on. My deer heard is in real good shape, really, I have to many deer, the hogs have not affected them at all. And remember, we (caucasions) are not native to this continent either. Personally, I like having some around so I can big-game hunt year round. They are more challenging to hunt than deer in my opinion. I love to hunt, I like the stories and meals around the campfire, the scouting, the planning, the ammo-weapon choice, the stalk or ambush, but for me, it's not the kill I enjoy, it's the thrill of the chase. And the sharing of the memories with your friends and family. And the meat! The actual killing is the least enjoyable aspect of hunting to me, but we all have our opinions.
We shoot all we can but we keep them, except for an occasional rank boar. You hurt your deer hunting far worse than the hogs do if you go around blasting hogs right before or during deer season, you can kiss your big old smart bucks goodbye, because they will head to greener pastures with the hunting and shooting going on. My deer heard is in real good shape, really, I have to many deer, the hogs have not affected them at all. And remember, we (caucasions) are not native to this continent either. Personally, I like having some around so I can big-game hunt year round. They are more challenging to hunt than deer in my opinion. I love to hunt, I like the stories and meals around the campfire, the scouting, the planning, the ammo-weapon choice, the stalk or ambush, but for me, it's not the kill I enjoy, it's the thrill of the chase. And the sharing of the memories with your friends and family. And the meat! The actual killing is the least enjoyable aspect of hunting to me, but we all have our opinions.
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Hey Palerider, I myself and most likely my pops would love to come take a few off your land.....as a matter of fact, if theres anyone else who wants a few gone I'd be more than happy to have some hog meat in the fridge. Let me know.TXPalerider said:
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