Yes. Don't go around assaulting folks and you won't have to risk taking a bullet.

 

Good shot......no telling what the aggressor could have/would have done if the guy on the ground wasn't willing and able to end the threat.

 

That escalated quickly. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

The shooter is toast.

 

The shooter will not be charged. At least at this point. That is the definition of "stand your ground".

 

Man, when he pulled the gun the guy backed off....

 

This was my thought. But, how would you know whether or not he was retreating to pull his weapon? Or go to the car and get something?

 

If the shooter would have minded his own **** business this would have never happened in the first place. Whether he is wrong or right, he is the responsible party.

How many of you would have walked out and saw your GF in a verbal altercation and not gotten a little aggressive? The "Im in fear of my life" doesn't sit well with me on this one. Gray area for sure.

 

If the shooter would have minded his own **** business this would have never happened in the first place. Whether he is wrong or right, he is the responsible party.

How many of you would have walked out and saw your GF in a verbal altercation and not gotten a little aggressive? The "Im in fear of my life" doesn't sit well with me on this one. Gray area for sure.

Kinda my thoughts, guy did not try to harm him once he pushed him and was not advancing when he pulled his weapon. The shooter started the confrontation.

 

IMO, no. When he pulled his gun the guy backed off so he was no longer an immediate threat. Plus the shooter was the original instigator and if it was my wife in the car I would have confronted the guy also. Probably wouldn't have shoved him to the ground though.

 

This is my take as well.

 

I have no idea what the outcome will be, but I would not have pulled the trigger in those circumstances.



I would not worry about pride or ego in a situation like this, just don't escalate matters. I see it as my duty not to stir stuff up when carrying. After the initial shove, the attacker did not seem to be going in for more.

 

Both sides loose!!!!

There is no winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

This. I'd hate to be the Judge.

 

According to the store owner, the shooter has a history of getting into arguments in the store parking lot....

 

Getting worse and worse for the shooter. I think he will end being charged with something.

 

Good shoot.


Understand the following:


1. The guy on the ground had already been attacked.
2. The attacker was WELL within the "still a threat" distance (anyone know about the "21 Foot Rule"?). If the attacker had gone after him again, BEFORE the man drew his weapon, he would not have been able to pull his weapon in time to defend himself. The threat still existed.




TWG

 

This guy's life is toast. If the state doesnt charge him the protestors surely will. i will be surprised if he doesnt get charged with something with all of the national exposure focused on it.

 

You know how not to get shot? Don't park in handicap spots when not handicap.

You can see the shooter check the front and back plates. I wonder if he has family or friends who are handicap?

 

I seem to remember a rather entertaining thread on this topic......wonder if it has changed anyones minds on the legality of handicapped placards?

 

Good shot, bad decision!

 

by the way, just because he wasn't criminally charged, he WILL likely have to go through a civil case.

 

From a lawyer buddy of mine, the way the statute is written, if he is no-billed or immune from prosecution on the "stand your ground" defense he is immune from a civil lawsuit as well. :headknock

 

Reminds me of what my platoon sergeant use to say, don't start any poop there won't be any poop.


Yeah the guy was wrong to park in the handicap spot, but that's not a capital offense in my book. Getting shoved to the ground should not make someone fear for their live.


This will just be more ammo for the leftist to fight against that law and the 2nd in general.

 

Remembering the Joe Horn story very well, I probably would not have pulled the trigger as fast as the shooter did. I perceive (from the video) that shooter had time to still defend, even if big guy pulled something. Big guy did appear to slightly back off or at least not keep moving forward in an aggressive manner. Tough call for anyone put in that position. Split second decisions are the toughest. Were I able to stay calm and regain composure, I'd have probably told him I have 16 hunks of lead with your name on them, all you have to do is ask for them.

 

It seems to come down to a question of, does every shove, punch, or other physical aggressiveness constitute a reasonable fear of life or great bodily harm? It didn't look to me like the guy that got shoved was going to be killed or suffer additional harm. Might come down to a jury of your peers and how good your lawyer is.

 

Guy backed off once the gun was pulled. Not sure how anyone can justify killing someone after simply being pushed, it’s not like he went in on him after he hit the ground.


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1.) Unmarried couple with kids parks in a handicapped spot, although not handicapped and other spots are available (as per parking lot surveillance video).
2.) Young (28) big black guy goes in to buy “snacks”.
3.) Older (47) and smaller white guy confronts women driver for illegally parking in handicapped spot. She takes exception for being called out. In her own words afterwards says something like “how dare him call me out like he was the popo or something). She could have simply moved.
4.) Large, strong, hothead boyfriend sees/hears argument outside, runs out and aggressively shoves white guy who is merely pointing out parking infraction - to the ground with both hands.
5.) White guy shoots aggressor for fear of being pummeled.

If it were to go to a criminal or civil trial, I would love to be on the jury.
Moral of the story, don’t have a d-bag girlfriend who thinks she has the right to park in handicap spots and be a hot head who commits physical assault...and you won’t get shot.

My only question is why only one shot. If he was properly trained, he should have double tapped.

I do feel bad for the 5 yr old kid to have to watch that. You don’t get to chose your parents, who’s individual actions combined to contribute to this event. I can’t believe anyone would say the shooter is the aggressor. He did not commit any crime and only drew once he felt necessary.

This has nothing to do with black and white. I would see things exactly the same if it were the other way around.

Another example of how f-ed up people in Florida are.

 

Video...

 

The shooter is toast. Enjoy bankruptcy and possibly prison.

On a side note, he would be the perfect person to check medical passes on the bolivar ferry!

 

I stated earlier that I wouldn't have shot under those circumstances, and I stand firm on that.



On a different note, some people are more fragile than others, depending on age and physical condition. Basically I am saying that what conditions I would shoot under now are not exactly the same as 20 years ago. It would be much easier to overpower me now than it used to be, so what I consider as life threatening action by an attacker has changed.



But to me this shooting was a retaliation for the shove, not really to protect himself. Come on man, the attacker pushed once and then backed off before the gun was pulled in my opinion. His body language wasn't hostile, and he shoved the chest area rather than swing hard at head.

 

I stated earlier that I wouldn't have shot under those circumstances, and I stand firm on that.

On a different note, some people are more fragile than others, depending on age and physical condition. Basically I am saying that what conditions I would shoot under now are not exactly the same as 20 years ago. It would be much easier to overpower me now than it used to be, so what I consider as life threatening action by an attacker has changed.

But to me this shooting was a retaliation for the shove, not really to protect himself. Come on man, the attacker pushed once and then backed off before the gun was pulled in my opinion. His body language wasn't hostile, and he shoved the chest area rather than swing hard at head.

I suggest everyone watch the video a few times. After being shoved to the ground it took the guy a few seconds to retrieve his weapon. I’m not sure I could have been much faster. The black guy pulls up his pants and continues to advance...only to back off once he saw the gun. At that point (< 1 sec), the shooter fires. All while recovering from a huge blow.

I’m only saying I can understand why the Sheriff would not press charges.

 

I liked in the interview she said "I can park where I want to park" (1:08 mark).

But to the point, I am not shooting a person in that situation at that point based on the video. I am a bit more able bodied than the shooter appears which obliviously played into his decision. We cannot hear what was being said. Maybe the dead guy said I'm going to kill you thus the response. I don't know nor do any of us. It does help that he fired from the ground still in a very vulnerable position.

I do find it interesting that the shooter was playing parking police and was surprised when it was not received well. He had zero situational awareness and was in a horrible fighting position. Not bladed off and let the dude get right up on him. I know many on here were to come out and see a complete stranger in a verbal altercation with their girlfriend, the reaction would likely be the same. Create distance between your daughter and the unknown aggressor.

http://www.vox.com/identities/2018/.../2018/7/23/17602312/stand-your-ground-florida-michael-drejka-markeis-mcglockton

 

I don't think that I would have shot, but who knows in that situation. I think this could have played out in a lot of ways that would not have ended with a guy dead. What if the guy had just stepped between his girlfriend and the guy instead of pushing him? What if the girl had stayed in the car? What if the guy had called the police instead of taking matters into his own hands? What if the girlfriend had parked legally?

All in all a tragedy.

 

Bored today Bryan?

 

Yep, stuck in the U.K. with the in-laws watching day after day of 1 ft seas back home.