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I got an email from an old friend today, call him John, regarding a problem he came across a few weeks ago at Big Southern on his boat.

He had invited a few guys from work to go offshore for some of their first times out of PA. One of his co-workers backed out at almost the last minute so they had room for one more on his boat. One of the other invitees, call him George, asked if he could bring along his brother-in-law to fill the spot and help with the costs.

John says no problem so the five of them planned on going out during the week on Tuesday and Wednesday.

They all met up Monday night in PA so John could show them the boat and get them accustomed to where everything was and go over the game plan for the next two days. John says that during Monday nights dinner, he made very specific mention that nothing other than some frosty brews would be allowed on board. No hard liquor and absolutely no drugs, period.

Tuesday morning they're getting ready to pull out of the Dolphin Docks and John mentions he wants to pick up a few more pounds of ice. He mentions to the other four guys to all go back to their respective vehicles and make sure they are locked and look to see if anything they need might have been left behind.

Tuesday afternoon they are drifting Southern and George's B-I-L pulls out a joint and those two partake. John is livid since 1. He's mentioned no drugs, 2. he lost a brother to drug abuse and is about as anti-drug as they come.

John tells George and his brother-in-law to toss it, and whatever else they've brought with them over the side and he'll let it slide. Both of them say no, they've paid for the trip with a portion of gas, bait, and supplies. John explains that it isn't negotiable. The b-i-l gets a little snippy with John about the situation and says if John will reimburse him the cash, he'll toss the joint, but not "the other party favors I brought along".

John ain't the biggest guy you'll come across, maybe 110 lbs soaking wet, but he doesn't intimidate easily. He decides to put a call into the Coast Guard, radio off, just to call the two jack holes into reality. Soon as he picks up the mike and starts faking the call the BIL rips the mike out of his hand and rips it off the radio tossing it over the side. A pretty big shouting match ensues. Cooler heads prevail and the BIL is calmed down and they start fishing again while John tries to figure out what to do.

John says he wanted to just head to the dock and get George and BIL off his boat but was worried about the fact that he now knew his boat had drugs on it and he would be knowingly bringing those drugs into port. He also thought about running home, getting in sight of another boat and having them call out the Homeland Security guys or Coasties while he waited but was worried about the situation getting real nasty on his boat. He also said he wanted to run inshore to get into cell phone range and try that to get the authorities out there as well.

Now what would be the proper course of action in this situation?

On the way to another spot, John ended up tossing the BIL's day bag and George's over the side and blamed it on the wind. Shortly after they headed in and came home Wednesday since they didn't have a radio.

Now John says George wants to go out again, minus the BIL, but John ain't having it.
 

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Not welcome. Owner says no...it's no end of story.

Oh, someone would be getting a bill for the radio...or I would be in court.
 

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George does not get to return. The BIL was his guest, so he gets to pay for radio repairs also. I vould even be tempted to contact the locals for a heads up on the BIL.
 

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i can't believe the nerve of some people. they were a guest on your friends boat. i would bill the BIL for the radio, of course you know that he won't get the money for it. and i would not let any of the 4 guys near the boat again. I think that i would of tried to come a little closer in to cell phone range and call the coast guard from the top tower if he has that kind of boat.
 

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I've had people pull that **** at my house before knowing I work in law enforcement. They were told to leave and that they were not welcome at my house ever again, and that if they did not leave I would call the Sheriff's office to "escort" them off my property. Needless to say they shagged arse. Seems always something happens when there is a "friend of a friend" involved in anything which is what happened at my house, people showed up who were not invited by me.
 

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I agree with all the above. But when your a guest it's not your place to invite someone else PERIOD! That's rude from the beginning.
 

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I'd have cranked up the engines and headed in. That would be the end of everyones fishing trip with an apology and partial refund to the innocent witnesses and nothing for George or his BIL. Keeping their money would be payment for the damage to the radio. If they didn't like it tell them to sue you and let them explain to a judge that you cut short their fishing trip cause you didn't like the weed they brought on board. In the future John needs to carry a pistol on board just as a precautionary measure. John being a small guy facing 2 stoned and much larger guys he may have need of it.
 

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Just bought me a new play toy a few weeks ago. Well, I traded a lawnboy mower and 2 bills for it. Seemed like a good deal.
 

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I agree with most except the pistol. Hmmm, what are you going to do with it. If the guys are smoking "POT" or doing "DRUGS" then head in, by the time they figured it out, it will be too late! The pistol will only complicate things.

Size doesn't matter, if you know how to fight then you can fight, if you do not then learn... take Taekwondo or something...

In my experience you cannot argue with "drunks" or "stoners"... either arrest them or leave them alone!
 

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Doesnt the "zero tolerance" Laws give the Coast Guard the right to take his boat even if he was the one to call them ?
My point being if I call the CG on a guest,might not I lose my boat and everything on it because I am also falling under the zero tolerance jurisdiction,is my understanding.
That the CG do not have the discretion to not take my boat.As in what part of ZERO means oh yeah boat owner was a good guy so leet's arrest the perps and thank him. No it means the boat and everything on it goes. Just saying what my impression the law has always been
 

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Maybe I'm Old School,but I always thought the skipper laid down the law and was the law on the seas. Plus there is the respect owed. But again I'm old school.
 

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Think I would have headed for home with out letting anybody know. Once in Cell Phone range, I would have made the 911 and just left the phone live (not really talking on the phone). That would have gotten someone out, specially if made it loud and clear over the phone that you were not happy that 2 @holes had drugs on the boat.
 

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I too would have headed in. I would not have made a fake call, I would have made a real call, that of course is if it bothered me enough to do so. As far as the radio, if I couldnt take the dude down I would have him in court. If he gets really unruley you can always play it off for a while, let things simmer down, wait till he is fighting a good fish and push his rear overboard and stay a decent distance and wait for the coasties to show up and bring him in.
 

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definately no to the gun too. you never know who you are dealing with and he may be quick enough to take your gun in the blink of an eye, then what? just cause he is a pot head does not mean he is anything else.
 

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it blows my mind to think someone I would know would even think of defying the law of my rig on a trip I invited them on! That is freaking crazy. Someone would have been doing the backstroke and hoping for an incoming tide. I hate your bud had to put up with that **** cause I would have blow a major gasket!

Also while they were ripped I would have headed in also. They would have never known. get them busy, throw their stuff cause they wouldn't have been paying attention and Bye Bye Bags! None of the above would be On my bote again.
 

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i'm not sure it's realistic to call the coast guard, or have the police wait for you at the dock for a couple disprespectful bozos smoking a joint. i think i would have just reminded them that "i specifically said no drugs," and tell them to throw it overboard - now. if they don't wish to comply, take them in and keep thier money for your trouble. it's your boat, your liability, and your responsibility, therefore, you make the rules. if they don't like your rules, they don't go fishin'. being my size, i'd be tempted to just take it away from them, but i'd probably rather just get rid of them instead of making a big deal out of it.
 

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I pull up the anchor and head back to the boat launch. Trailer the boat and head home. No discussion - this is my boat and I'm not going to lose it because you yahoos don't understand the meaning of "NO."
 

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Imo

If they capt says no it's no.

It's the attitude that I don't like.
I hate pushy people.

I hate flaming stoners as much as flaming *****.
Did I just say that?

What you do in your house is your business.
But in public it reflects on everyone.
Show courtesy and respect and it will reflect back upon you.

Another good one:
The respect you give is the respect you receive.
 
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