just got back from the ranchin san angelo a little while ago. my old man and i set up some new tripods in some really good looking areas and finished the day with limits of doves. we had a blast. we actually had some pretty great shots like hitting a couple birds 'bout 40 to 50 yds. high. the birds were everywhere and we had to leave 'em still flying. it is so green up there so i can't wait till opening morning and see what walks out.