Wow!! That's about as spot on as I've been in a while. I was kind of worried about the the deer in the first pic. The angle of the pic had the potential to be very deceiving.BIG PAPPA said:the first deer scores 139 without the kicker and the second scores 147. Both deer were aged at 6 1/2. the first deer dressed 127 dec 16 2007, and the second deer dressed 171 dec 18 2006. amazing what a little rain at the right time does for these animals. The second is one of my favorite..10 inch g-1's looks so cool when on the hoof.