[bp fishin(kat-a-lac)]

I buy 99% of my fuel(premium) at Teakwood and the other 1% at GYB. I filled up 3 weeks ago at Teakwood and 2 miles later both engines were dead.
I pumped over 10 gallons of water before fresh fuel was obtained, and finally got boat running again; however I had a Verado alarm that would not allow me to exceed 4500 rpm's, so I took my boat to Meeks(which I think is a very good mechanic and will continue to use). After 2 weeks and a hefty bill(but reasonable, they got 4 gallons of water) I picked it up on Friday and made a sea trail while watching the racor filters very close. I ran about 10 miles, then switched to the aft tanks and both engines die immediately. After 2 hours and 1+ gallon of water I get the port engine running and limp home.
I have talked to Teakwood twice, but they absolutely deny any water in their fuel, even though they use the wrong paste. Furthermore, their premium pumps were out of order on Friday and I asked them why, and was told "it is too expensive to buy". I have another opinion on this.
I have been told by someone else that they got bad fuel recently and Teakwood paid for their repairs. I was orginally not going to post this, but after closing their premium pumps, charging me $5 to launch on Friday, and reimbursing another person, I need to vent.
I have now missed another weekend of not using my boat because of this problem, and I'll probably pull the rear deck and drain ALL the fuel, ethanol, water, etc from the sending unit this weekend. Maybe the owners of a marina would like to be present and get free gas for their boat or car?

Good news is that Gary and Todd(Tx Fisherman) asked me to fish with them on Saturday and we had limits of snapper before noon. Excellent trip.

 

[myprozac]

When I was at finish line marine getting yama lube for our motors they told me not to buy gas from teakwood because a boat came in there with 10 gallons of water in its tank.

 

[catch 5]

There were a couple of guys saying the exact same thing about 3 weeks ago on this site

 

[Freshwaterman]

When I went by Saturday I noticed there wasn't a single boat in teakwood marina. I have to admit I haven't been on the water for awhile so I don't know why the marina was empty.

 

[Tortuga]

GnR..Al sold the whole she-bang a few months back and sent all of us tenants a packin. New guys are supposed to finally repair hurricane damage..dredge (badly needed) and mainly build a bunch of condos on the land. Not sure it will ever be a marina again..

 

[Bird]

I took the Fountain over there last week and noticed the pump on land was 'closed'. I guess it was a good thing since we ran 70 miles out. As a resident of Tiki, I'm pretty irritated at the new owners. They haven't done squat except let the place look like cr%p

 

[myprozac]

I have seen the renderings and blue prints for the condos and they are really nice.

 

[oth2500]

I have been helping Marty work on his boat. Two weeks ago when this all started we went over to teakwood and talked to them. They used the tank level stick with the same paste that they have been using for 8 years that is what he said. The tank had about 2 feet of cloudy looking gas in it he says look no water!! the cloudy gas is water/ethanol mix. He also stated that they only change their Racor filters once every 6 months. so the filters are not stopping the water anymore I think that the reason they stopped selling preminm fuel is not the cost of new fuel but the cost of getting rid of the water/ethanol/gas mix. They know they have a problem and pay for the damages that they caused....Bob

 

[Dunc]

All one needs to do is take a look at the overall operation since the new owners took over. It is a complete frikin train wreck. Looks like a garbage dump. Inconsistent marina office schedule and bad fuel. If they can't buy premium because it is to expensive that says they can't cover their overhead...that tells me they won't last...so maybe there is hope in the future.


Lots and lots of Tiki residents with water in the fuel problems recently.

Edit: How the heck are they going to build condos and fix the marina if they can't even afford to stock fremium fuel?????????

 

[TOM WEBER]

If there is an oil co. sign at their pump, contact the co (shell,chevron ,etc) in writing with copies of the receipts. They will be interested and probably send someone to investigate. Send copies of the posts as well. I spent the night in East Bay in the 80's because of water I purchased posing as fuel. I received a check for the fuel ( EXXON) and they informed me they were sending someone to inspect the fuel system at the marina on Boliver.

 

[manintheboat]

This ethanol situation is a mess. If our local marinas are getting any water in their tanks, it will be a total headache for us boaters for years to come.

 

[myprozac]

I heard from a friend up North that ethanol over time will evaporate water from gas. Is that true?

 

[Instigator]

Ethanol is very miscible with water and also gas, gas is only miscible with ethanol. Any water vapor, condensation or plain liquid water comes in contact with the ethanol it will diffuse into it. Once enough water diffuses into the gas-ethanol blend it will break the blend forming a third layer of watery ethanol and that won't burn. It's not such a big deal with low percentage ethanol blends, but the E85 stuff will be a nightmare. No more leaving the tanks half empty, supplies will always be suspicious and the tow boat guys are gonna get rich. If our outboards will even run on E85.

The idea about alcohol evaporating water from gas comes from pure gas supplies. Then you could add the alcohol, it would mix with the water and since it is much more volatile than the water it would evaporate and carry the water out with it. It would work with small quantities of water, but not with the gallons that you guys are talking about.

 

[manintheboat]

Do you think that E-85 is even a possibility. I sure hope not. Just about every outboard motor is designed to handle only up to 10% ethanol. To have local stations start carrying e-85 would be profoundly irresponsible and dangerous. Instead of protecting our coasts, the Coast Guard will be constantly responding to maydays.

 

[myprozac]

Thanks for that info instigator.
Jeff

 

[jtburf]

Do you think that E-85 is even a possibility. I sure hope not. Just about every outboard motor is designed to handle only up to 10% ethanol. To have local stations start carrying e-85 would be profoundly irresponsible and dangerous. Instead of protecting our coasts, the Coast Guard will be constantly responding to maydays.

Several Krogers in the Houston area are currently selling E85....

John

 

[pelican]

I've used the regular with no problems ... but the current price is outrageous ... going to be using portable containers or loading the boat on the trailer for future fill-ups.

There were a couple of guys saying the exact same thing about 3 weeks ago on this site

http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/showthread.php?t=67488&highlight=teakwood

 

[BigOTex]

Teakwood Gas

I ran thier regulas gas this last week and did not have a problem..except that it was $3.16 @ gal !!!

Bought 100 gallons and ran close to 200 gallon out of the CardShark....no problem on the 4 stoke 225HP Yamahas...

 

[Kenner21]

Here's something I've wondered about for awhile now maybe someone can fill me in....since marinas sell gas that goes into boats most of the time do they get a break on the road tax we pay at the pump? I believe it's like 20 cents a gallon ....seems like they could sell fuel for a decent price I.E. what we pay at the pump if they're saving 20 cents a gallon right off the bat????? I might be way off here but was just wondering.......

 

[ssb]

Pricing

Better than high 3's at pirates !