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Anyone know anything good or bad about the following home builders: Brighton Homes, Lennar Homes, or Coventry Homes?

If I was reasearching a car there are thousands of websites giving more info. than is humanly possible to read with reviews and insight as to who makes a quality vehicle, nothing like that exists for home builders. Why isn't there a Consumer Reports, or Consumer Digest etc... regarding home builders and who makes a quality home vs. who cuts corners? Thanks....:)
 

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Do a search for TRCC Texas Residential Construction Commission and go to public records and it will show all the complaints if any. It also shows how many homes they have built. Also call the Greater H-town Area Home Builders Assoc. and find out about their membership status, this is where the education for builders comes from, new codes, better homes for the costomer etc. Don't take the cheapest but the best bid, find out what that builder will offer you for what he's charging. Lot of new laws out there and it would be a good idea if you would check them out.


There is also a lot of new practices that can make the home more comfortable without extra energy cost actually lower energy cost.
 

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I'll give Brighton a bump...I used to do there cabinettes & there supers are top notch..
They do build to spec & build a nice home..the others..Cant help ya..
Pm me with the name of the Sub your goin to look @ ..& mabey I can give you some insight.

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I've gone to the TRCC site but lots of these builders aren't listed by their public name, they must have cooperate names or parent companies that own them. Also some builders just aren't listed at all. I've also used the BBB website to check on complaints and status to check on builders. I've narrowed the builder list some what and learned that Perry Homes, David Weekley Homes, David Powers Homes, and Morrison Homes seem to be some of the better builders and learned some of the ones to stay away from.

I was just wondering if anyone has opinions on Lennar Homes, Brighton Homes, Coventry Homes, or Trendmaker Homes. Word of mouth seems to be one of the best ways to find out anything about builders. Keep the info. coming guys...Thanks.
 

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well i am a little bias because my wife is an area manager for one of the lennar "family builders" (village builders) and lennar offers so much for the money it is hard to get away from them.
i live in a village builders home and love every inch.

i own a concrete contracting company in houston and from that point of view lennar pays well and pays ontime, but i have had dealings with most builders in houston over the last 10 yrs and the best builder from my point of view is PERRY HOMES period. excelent quality, price, supers are the most experienced of any home builder on the hole. (the minimum requiremnet is 5 yrs project manager exp., 2 yr or newer full size truck, always dress well, very profesional)

just my $.02 with a little background in the business.
 

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If they are not listed

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I've gone to the TRCC site but lots of these builders aren't listed by their public name, they must have cooperate names or parent companies that own them. Also some builders just aren't listed at all. I've also used the BBB website to check on complaints and status to check on builders. I've narrowed the builder list some what and learned that Perry Homes, David Weekley Homes, David Powers Homes, and Morrison Homes seem to be some of the better builders and learned some of the ones to stay away from.

I was just wondering if anyone has opinions on Lennar Homes, Brighton Homes, Coventry Homes, or Trendmaker Homes. Word of mouth seems to be one of the best ways to find out anything about builders. Keep the info. coming guys...Thanks.
They are not registered builders. It is state law that all builders become registered and register your home with the TRCC.
 

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Lennar's program is everything included meaning just that. They do the market research to determine what the majority of consumers want at the different price points.They then go out and get communities and build the homes with those items already included to pass the cost savings on to the consumer.

They are not for everyone but they build a great product and stand behind it with way better than average customer care which says a lot for a national builder 50,000 plus homes a year.

Perry is nice also but you will pay a premium. Owners are ultra conservative types. What do you think keeps those boys in new trucks every two years?
 

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Homebuilders.......My favorite question. Don't let the pretty colors, yards and counter tops in the models fool you. You need to know what is between the walls. Be weary of them all! The home builders in this thread are all average at best and if you do your homework, you'll be much better off. They build in mass and have suspect quality and workmanship. Let me get to some of my gripes.
1. They will charge you a change-fee for any small modification even if it does not affect the timetable or increase the cost.
2. Most of them will not allow you to work with the super. They want you away from him and you will have to work with the salesperson only. Most of these don't know jack.....t about construction methods.
3. They do not take soil samples. Most use post tension slabs. This is the cheapest foundation method and should not be used in the gumbo Texas soils we have around here. Slab problems will occur eventually. You need a pier and beam foundation
4. Perry uses Goodman A/C's made locally here. These are low quality. Most of the time the A/C's are undersized and you will be unhappy with your elec. bills and the comfort of your house. You want a zoned system. Why cool the whole house at night when everyone is asleep in their bedroom? A properly zoned house will save you $$$$$$$
5. They all wire the house with 14 guage wire and 10 amp breakers. You should have 12 gauge wire and 20 amp breakers at least in the garage so you can run compressors and most tools.
6. Most use aluminum frame windows and these are heat conductors. Upgrade to vinyl frame. Most of these clowns were still using single frame windows up until two years ago when the state started to require double-pane.
7. Ask what brand of paint do they use. If they say Monarch, run away. You will be re-painting in a few years (personnel experience) Use Benjamin Moore, Pittsburg (owns Monarch) or Pratt & Lambert
8. Insist on a radiant barrier roof deck. Polar-Ply or Tech Shield. If your builder does not offer it, run away fast. This will keep your attic 20 degrees cooler and keep a heat load off your A/C. It will pay for itself in a few years.
9. Do not let then use foam boards on the sheathing package. Use plywood on the corners, no OSB and black saturated asphalt board in the middle and wrap the house in Tyvek. Foam boards hold mositure and will grow mold!!!! It happened to my parents house.
10. Hire a good inspector to come out and check on things as your house progresses. Most inspectors have a set fee for this and will come out after the pour, frame, plumb, elec, roof, etc. Don't just trust what the builder says. The inspectors work and are paid by YOU!!!!!. They will probably raise some issues with the builder but are much more experienced than the supers. Most supers are kids just out of college in the last few years and are not that experienced.

Just be careful and be aware of what is going into your walls. Most of these builders only build out in the county because their methods would not pass inspection by the cities.

I could go on and on about builders, but I hope you got my point
 

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Old Whaler..I take it your not fond of Perry homes....J/K..Im not crazy about them either..there super's are Newbies , Frsh outta college & I had to do there frame punches in Sienna Plantation.
Not the Brightest Bulbs on the block..

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Old Whaler, there are new laws that require inspections where ever you build city or county. Those are good points though, but this is not a cheap bid. You will get what you payed for. All these things should be provided on the detail sheet and discription of materials that you and the builder should sign.
 

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Homebuilders.......My favorite question. Don't let the pretty colors, yards and counter tops in the models fool you. You need to know what is between the walls. Be weary of them all! The home builders in this thread are all average at best and if you do your homework, you'll be much better off. They build in mass and have suspect quality and workmanship. Let me get to some of my gripes.
1. They will charge you a change-fee for any small modification even if it does not affect the timetable or increase the cost.
2. Most of them will not allow you to work with the super. They want you away from him and you will have to work with the salesperson only. Most of these don't know jack.....t about construction methods.
3. They do not take soil samples. Most use post tension slabs. This is the cheapest foundation method and should not be used in the gumbo Texas soils we have around here. Slab problems will occur eventually. You need a pier and beam foundation
4. Perry uses Goodman A/C's made locally here. These are low quality. Most of the time the A/C's are undersized and you will be unhappy with your elec. bills and the comfort of your house. You want a zoned system. Why cool the whole house at night when everyone is asleep in their bedroom? A properly zoned house will save you $$$$$$$
5. They all wire the house with 14 guage wire and 10 amp breakers. You should have 12 gauge wire and 20 amp breakers at least in the garage so you can run compressors and most tools.
6. Most use aluminum frame windows and these are heat conductors. Upgrade to vinyl frame. Most of these clowns were still using single frame windows up until two years ago when the state started to require double-pane.
7. Ask what brand of paint do they use. If they say Monarch, run away. You will be re-painting in a few years (personnel experience) Use Benjamin Moore, Pittsburg (owns Monarch) or Pratt & Lambert
8. Insist on a radiant barrier roof deck. Polar-Ply or Tech Shield. If your builder does not offer it, run away fast. This will keep your attic 20 degrees cooler and keep a heat load off your A/C. It will pay for itself in a few years.
9. Do not let then use foam boards on the sheathing package. Use plywood on the corners, no OSB and black saturated asphalt board in the middle and wrap the house in Tyvek. Foam boards hold mositure and will grow mold!!!! It happened to my parents house.
10. Hire a good inspector to come out and check on things as your house progresses. Most inspectors have a set fee for this and will come out after the pour, frame, plumb, elec, roof, etc. Don't just trust what the builder says. The inspectors work and are paid by YOU!!!!!. They will probably raise some issues with the builder but are much more experienced than the supers. Most supers are kids just out of college in the last few years and are not that experienced.

Just be careful and be aware of what is going into your walls. Most of these builders only build out in the county because their methods would not pass inspection by the cities.

I could go on and on about builders, but I hope you got my point
Here are a few other things to look out for with track home builders
1. Insist on ridge vents if you have plenty of ridge to properly vent your attic. No turbines, elec. vents or airhawks. the natural convection is for heat to rise.
2. Insist on continious soffits. Not the little 8"x16" grills. This will help vent the hot air out of the attic.
3. Use fiberglass rolls of insulation in the attic, no blown in. Rolls cover much more efficiently.
4. No cellulose insulation!!!!!. This garbage is ground-up newspapers and will degrade rapidly. (My aunt's experience)
5. Insist on Hardi-Plank system, siding and trim. Most track builders will tell you they use Hardi-Plank, but use only the siding and use wood trim boards for fascia and trim and they will rot out in a few years.
 

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seems like Old Whaler knows whats hes talking about
my advise would be to stay on top of your home and builder and you shouldent have a problem
and get a inspector to check every thing out , you wont regret it
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Here are a few other things to look out for with track home builders
1. Insist on ridge vents if you have plenty of ridge to properly vent your attic. No turbines, elec. vents or airhawks. the natural convection is for heat to rise.
2. Insist on continious soffits. Not the little 8"x16" grills. This will help vent the hot air out of the attic.
3. Use fiberglass rolls of insulation in the attic, no blown in. Rolls cover much more efficiently.
4. No cellulose insulation!!!!!. This garbage is ground-up newspapers and will degrade rapidly. (My aunt's experience)
5. Insist on Hardi-Plank system, siding and trim. Most track builders will tell you they use Hardi-Plank, but use only the siding and use wood trim boards for fascia and trim and they will rot out in a few years.
 

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We made the decision to pay a bit more and purchased a David Powers home. I must say we have been very happy. Well built home, and have no problem with their customer service. They came out 1 year after we'd purchased it and walked thru the house and fixed any popped nail heads, scrapes we'd made in walls and painted the areas they fixed. Who else does that?

Years ago, we'd purchased a David Weekly Custom Classics home. Never again. Poor built, roof leaked all the time and nothing but electrical problems. Cabinet finish started to turn yellow on maple cabinets. After charging me extra for maple cabinets, their solution was to paint them white. No thanks. I spent $3k to hire my own electrician to fix what they couldn't.

Just remember, you get what you pay for.
 

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Great info, Old Whaler! We may be building a home soon, so I'll be saving this thread!
I agree, good info. Whaler. We're not going to be buying new or building a house, I'm looking at preowned homes on HAR.com and trying to figure out which buyers to avoid and which to seek out. I've learned to stay away from KB Homes, Pulte, Beazer, Royce, Ryland, Meritage, Legacy, Hammond and read of some bad experiences with Newmark. Builders I feel confident in are David Powers, David Weekley, Morrison, and Perry. Builders on the bubble that I don't know much about are Trendmaker, Brighton, Lennar, and Coventry Homes. I won't have the ability to make sure the house is built right during the construction process so I'm looking for builders with a good reputation, and of course I'll have any house I get serious about checked out by a home inspector. I'm considering the Towne Lake Estates subdivision in Pearland which is all Brighton Homes and also considering several subdivisions in Silverlake, Silvercreek, Cabot Cove, subdivisions and several others. Thanks for all info. guys keep it coming...:)
 

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Old Whaler, with "track builders" you are not going to insist on anything. You are going to get what they use. If you want to "insist", build a custom. Search features, value, and knock on some doors in the community. Existing homeowners WILL tell you what you need to know.

I am an Area Manager for a production builder in San Antonio. If any of you have questions about builders in this area PM me. I hope I can help.
 

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Old Whaler, with "track builders" you are not going to insist on anything. You are going to get what they use. If you want to "insist", build a custom. Search features, value, and knock on some doors in the community. Existing homeowners WILL tell you what you need to know.

I am an Area Manager for a production builder in San Antonio. If any of you have questions about builders in this area PM me. I hope I can help.
I agree with Sight Cast......Track builders may let you pick from their list of upgrades but if it ain't in there upgrade book you aint getting it, and most won't let you pick a sub that does something specific that you may want. I am a low voltage contractor here in New Braunfels/San Antonio...for those builders you can't find listed on the state sight do a google search to find their parent company, every builder has to be registered in the state of texas now you can also contact the local Builder Assoc they can help you find parent companies
 
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