IFA DQ"D Our Fish Not Happy!

[Brine Jake]

Originally Posted by Smackdaddy53

What about all the other fish that werent disqualified that had tails that looked even worse? Makes no sense whatsoever i dont care how anyone word whips a bunch of rules that obviously mean nothing because the rules seem to be bent by the guy that DQd his fish. Look at the photos, its self explanatory why hes ****** about the ruling.
-mac-

I see that. That's another point--selective enforcement. (Like the traffic officer pulls you over at 75 after another guy went by at 100. You're right--changing a rule won't affect that kind of practice.) There might be more than one offense on the part of this judge. (I didn't look at the closeup tail photos of the other fish.)

I've since been shown that that isn't the rule, anyway. There really is also a problem with the way the rules are written. They gave this bad official too much unnecessary discretion. Sure, he could still cheat Railbird on the fringes, but he couldn't disqualify his 25.5" inch redfish under the improved rule.

I agree with you that no rule is foolproof, but just because any rule can be bent or broken doesn't mean some rules aren't a lot better than others. Bad rules can be improved. Think about it. And this rule can be improved.

[railbird]

In all, i have spent about an 1.5 hours in discussions with the ifa officials. I understand they are trying to do the right thing, i feel they are on the wrong path. The explanation i recieved was they are doing this (perfect tail rule) to take most if not all discretion out or the hands of the td. When it is brought to his attention, he basicly has no choice if the tail is damaged. I hope their written rule is cleaned up to at least fit what they are doing. Otherwise, they should not even bother with having written rules. I have forwarded brinejakes suggestions to the owner of the organization and he said they would seriously look at the proposed change to the rules. He said they would likely not do it until the end of this season, unless it obviously solves all issues. As for the polygraph for any questionable fish, it is not fesible and they felt it would not solve all issues either. After a long discussion, i can't say i disagree.

For all who want to find a conspiracy here, i don't see one. I wish it hadn't happened to us, but it did and i will live with it. The amount of money here will not change my life or effect my happiness. Therefore, I am going to drop this and move on. I will likely fish a few IFA's in the future when time and cash flow permit.

As for any remedy's some might believe we are entitled to, I look at this from their position. If the do anything for us, they would have to go back and do it for every team that has been dq'd this year. I understand it, but it is still a hard pill to swallow.

chuck

[shaggydog]

The explanation i recieved was they are doing this (perfect tail rule) to take most if not all discretion out or the hands of the td.


Wouldn't the "perfect tail" be at the discression of the TD? I think this is where the problem lies, too subjective. You gave them something to think about so something positive may come out of it.

[waterspout]

Game warden would have said legal(even fed),,, he should have also!

[Brine Jake]

Originally Posted by railbird

For all who want to find a conspiracy here, i don't see one. I wish it hadn't happened to us, but it did and i will live with it. ...
As for any remedy's some might believe we are entitled to, I look at this from their position. If the do anything for us, they would have to go back and do it for every team that has been dq'd this year. I understand it, but it is still a hard pill to swallow.

chuck

If it were a conspiracy among a few crooks, that wouldn't be so bad.
That can be dealt with. This is much worse than that. This is officially sanctioned bureacratic incompetence, laziness at the very best, which is now built into the organizational system and will likely continue in perpetuity. People tolerate it, suck it up and just go on because most of the time, it doesn't impinge directly on them.

I knew full well why they allow some idiot to intentionally dq legal fish with this stupid no-tail-flaw-reagrdless-of-length rule: Pure laziness, at the very best. They can't trust their help. They're unwilling to get people who will do a competent job. They want to take your money, put on a tourney, and then cut corners in places where it really matters.

You can fwd this along, too.