New way to Catch Red Snapper in Federal Water Now & Bring Home Red Snapper Fillets

[oldtrackster]

Originally Posted by Mike Jennings

Lucky , ill put it to you this way , i will make this public right here and now ill gas up my contender , put it in the water tomorrow morning and i cover all expenses , i will lay $100 cold hard cash with the video of me paying it to be played on 2cool to anyone who can show me a limit of legal snapper within nine nautical miles of the shore and 20 miles of the freeport jetty .

but truth be known your just probably an exceptional fisherman

Originally Posted by Hotrod

I just might take that bet if you wanna wager 1K.

Originally Posted by Mike Jennings

Done ,bring cash , ill go hook it up right now , what time you wanna meet in the morning ? my number is on the website

Man what did I miss while I was asleep? Not for SOS but already covered why on the site. I would like to know who ends up with an extra 1K, let us know how the fishing goes!

[Possession Limit Lures]

Now this is getting interesting. I don't know Freeport area at all, but Hotrod I'll go as crew. Rik, do you see a free trip and a pay day here?-Mike

[Swells]

Finding snapper within 9 miles shouldn't be such a big issue this time of year, interesting bet -- a safer bet down here by Port Mansfield and the Steamers, though.

YEP its pathetic , only those that own boats should catch snapper

Now Cowboy Mike, I love ya man but that's the most ridiculous thing you've ever written, buddy. Your charter clients don't own an offshore boat, which is why they're fishing with you, right? I don't have an offshore boat now -- does that mean I can't land a red snapper? No it does not. All I need is a TPWD saltwater license and a ride.

People who want to exclude others from a shared public resource are a very dangerous lot. They want to cut out the commercial fishing even though red snapper are plentiful. They want to cull the CFH fleet so that only the rich boys can pay 'n' play. They want sector separation and "catch shares" sold to the highest bidder. Now y'all want to exclude Joe Six-Pack? Hmmm, I see a pattern here, of incredible hubris and greed. There's enough snapper for everyone! Sorry Bud, I call 'em, like I see 'em. I'm sure if we bad a coupla beers we could figure out what ya really meant to say?
-sammie

[Haute Pursuit]

"Quote:
YEP its pathetic , only those that own boats should catch snapper"


I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm...

[hilton]

Originally Posted by Haute Pursuit

"Quote:
YEP its pathetic , only those that own boats should catch snapper"


I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm...

H.P.,
This statement is part of the EDF-scripted mantra and is not unique to this thread. You can find the same statement made several times by the SOS guys on this forum, and it was not meant as sarcasm.

All the best,
Tom

[WestEndAngler]

Two of my buddies work on their boats and I know for a fact they vent

[jim smarr]

If you fish in Texas you have to have a license. If you land fish in Texas you have to have a license. You know the States were offered a window to implement a license or be forced into a Federal License. Texas chose to require a license for all aspects of fishing. I am sure TPWD will post up as I spoke to Coastal Fisheries in Austin today to confirm my thoughts on the issue. The RFA requested the move to keep funds for license sales in Texas so TPWD could benefit from the revenue opposed to paying the FED's.

JWS

Originally Posted by bob zales, II

So you don't need a lic if you fish only in fed waters? If that is so, where is the compatability with the feds on requiring licenses?? In Florida if you have a rod on a boat you must have a lic so even if you are in the eez and have departed from FL you must have a lic. That is compatable. So if TX only requires a lic in state waters does this mean that TX is not only not compatible with the feds by keeping state waters open all year, they also are not compatable with the new fed requirements that all anglers fixhing in the eez must have a registry? Someone should pose this question to Robin as he would be able to tell the facts.

[dhingle]

Fishing Licenses and Packages

A valid fishing license with a freshwater or saltwater stamp endorsement is required to take fish, mussels, clams, crayfish or other aquatic life in the public waters of Texas. A hunting license is required to take turtles and frogs.
The first Saturday in June of each year is the annual Free Fishing Day and no person is required to have a fishing license or stamp endorsements while fishing on that day.
A fishing license and stamp endorsement are not required if fishing from the bank in a state park or in waters completely enclosed by a state park. All other fishing regulations, such as length and bag limits, remain in effect.
Recreational anglers must have a Texas fishing license and saltwater endorsement to bring any fish taken in federal waters ashore in Texas (see Texas State Waters – Federal Waters).

this is straight from the tpwd website fishing regs. you have to have a license while bringing fish ashore in texas from federal waters. it doesn't address what is needed while fishing in federal waters. as long as mr williams has the appropriate permits i dont see where is doing anything illegal however immoral and rotten we all think it may be. it seems to be nothing more than simple marketing. that as i see it is business and treating the resource as a commodity where most on here enjoy it as a "hobby" thereby creating the passion that shows up on here so frequently.

now, if i were gonna go on that trip, i would get myself a license, what happens when you get out there and the kings show or a ling or 2 shows up, after all it is april and may or you get into the b liners. you would kick yourself in the arse for not getting the license. again, i don't like it anymore than anyone else but it is nothing more than marketing and mr williams is in business to make a profit.

so you guys gonna add boycott the party boats to your list of boycotted items?

[hilton]

Capt. Hingle,
The green.orgs have accused us of wanting to set conservation policies back by revising Magnuson to allow for flexibility. That is untrue. We are very concerned about protecting the resource.

These SOS guys have teamed up with the green.orgs to promote sector separation and catch shares (yes, catch shares are part of it). Their whole spiel is about accountability, etc.etc.

Yet, here's a SOS guy who is promoting wanton waste of the resource for personal profit. His boat carries over 80 fishermen, and looks to be available to operate 7 days/week. Since it has been shown that there is a very high mortality rate for reef fish caught in federal waters (around 80%), then the net result of the "marketing angle" could be the demise of hundreds of thousands of pounds of snapper and other fish that are simply wasted, thrown back to die. That's a sizeable chunk of the recreational allotment, no?

My personal opinion is that his permits should be yanked if he tries to pull a stunt such as this - it is not legal to promote wanton waste of the resource, period.

Apparently the resource is second to the almighty dollar to these guys.

Tom

[Loco Pato]

Tom you keep speaking of greed, How much $ have you made off of publishing spots in the gulf. How many millions of pounds of snapper have died on Commercial boats from your books ( I know many Comm capts fishing out of yours and Riks book) Most CFH capts and rec fisherman use your Hiltons offshore.com Heck I know even Gary Jarvis subscribes. I know you provide a fine service to fisherman as we do with our charters and I hope we all can make a decent living doing it. The greed remarks are getting old as are the IFQ conspiricy theories. I support SOS and the CFH fleet! Calm Seas..Capt. Scott P.S. I wont be offering catch and realease trips for snapper.