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02-17-2010, 10:48 PM
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I am trippin here, I didn't know that it was a accepted practice for charters to waste fish like that. Do you target deep water snaps and chuck them back to flipper on all your charters Mike? I hate to see them air bubbles foaming out of their scales even when I am going to keep one. Just kinda nasty Partner.
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02-17-2010, 10:51 PM
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I would love a serious answer!
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seriously , i personally wouldn't run that type of trip , i find it counter productive to the leaps and bounds we have made in the red snapper fishery over the last several years ,agree with the management or not , agree or disagree with the reasoning , but we can all agree that the red snapper fishery is stronger now than it has been in the last decade.this type of catch and release fishing will harm this fishery even if it you can argue that it may be negligible , its still distasteful , and we attack Johnny as being greedy and just thinking of himself
on the other hand ,unlike most i live 5 minutes from the jetties and i am on the water several days a week , i see illegally poached snapper being cleaned on a regular basis every time we get a decent weather window , and i listen to those same individuals complain about the practices of the head boats . I personally see there distaste for the federal mismanagement , but see there actions just as distasteful. it is just as counter productive as a catch and release trip , even if we can claim that it is negligible and we justify it in our minds because we dislike the management practices of the powers at be.
remimber that when someone post up a fishing report of all the 15 lb red snapper they caught in state waters here in a couple of weeks , we follow there post with comments of how much we enjoyed there report and tell them how they did a good job , all the wile knowing they caught the fish in federal waters , but hey its justified because NMFS is too heave handed and we like being rebels when it comes to federal heavy handedness
and yes im for real , seems at times we all throw stones on our glass houses
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02-17-2010, 10:54 PM
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I am trippin here, I didn't know that it was a accepted practice for charters to waste fish like that. Do you target deep water snaps and chuck them back to flipper on all your charters Mike? I hate to see them air bubbles foaming out of their scales even when I am going to keep one. Just kinda nasty Partner.
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your assumptions are just as nasty PARTNER , and welcome to the club , i realised you were trippin a long time ago !
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02-17-2010, 10:57 PM
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In other words; "To hell with the fish - anything to make a buck!"
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Tom , i apologise , i keep forgetting you lack the basic ability to understand sarcasm . Lucky for the rest of us , were not as simple minded
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02-17-2010, 11:04 PM
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SOS BS
What a day.
I began the day hearing voices and now I am ending the day simple minded.
I guess it is simple minded to try to stick to the issues and shine the light on the SOS BS.
Mike Jennings: "Mike, the difference here , is personally i hope you succeed in all of life's endeavors . as well as i hope Johnny Williams is successful" Were you being sarcastic here too? I'm sorry, but I didn't read any sarcasm in your remarks.
All the best,
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02-17-2010, 11:26 PM
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What a day.
I began the day hearing voices and now I am ending the day simple minded.
I guess it is simple minded to try to stick to the issues and shine the light on the SOS BS.
Mike Jennings: "Mike, the difference here , is personally i hope you succeed in all of life's endeavors . as well as i hope Johnny Williams is successful" Were you being sarcastic here too? I'm sorry, but I didn't read any sarcasm in your remarks.
All the best,
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you got it Tom , you shouldn't have read any into that statement , i was a sincere as i can be.
seriously i hope you succeed in all of your business endeavors as well . shoot i hope you make Millions
that way i can say i personally know a millionaire , well other than the commercial red snapper fishermen !
P.S. Ok Ok , i was being sarcastic in the last part !
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02-17-2010, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Jennings
on the other hand ,unlike most i live 5 minutes from the jetties and i am on the water several days a week , i see illegally poached snapper being cleaned on a regular basis every time we get a decent weather window , and i listen to those same individuals complain about the practices of the head boats . I personally see there distaste for the federal mismanagement , but see there actions just as distasteful. it is just as counter productive as a catch and release trip , even if we can claim that it is negligible and we justify it in our minds because we dislike the management practices of the powers at be.
remimber that when someone post up a fishing report of all the 15 lb red snapper they caught in state waters here in a couple of weeks , we follow there post with comments of how much we enjoyed there report and tell them how they did a good job , all the wile knowing they caught the fish in federal waters , but hey its justified because NMFS is too heave handed and we like being rebels when it comes to federal heavy handedness
and yes im for real , seems at times we all throw stones on our glass houses
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Whoaa Cowboy, your a CFH and you think snapper can't be caught in state waters during the winter? I would think if your worth your salt as a CFH, you'd know better than to say that,... or am I just an exceptional fisherman? Is the state waters fishing really that poor out of Freeport vs. Matagorda/Port OcConner?
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02-17-2010, 11:47 PM
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Lucky , ill put it to you this way , i will make this public right here and now ill gas up my contender , put it in the water tomorrow morning and i cover all expenses , i will lay $100 cold hard cash with the video of me paying it to be played on 2cool to anyone who can show me a limit of legal snapper within nine nautical miles of the shore and 20 miles of the freeport jetty .
but truth be known your just probably an exceptional fisherman
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02-17-2010, 11:48 PM
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We all know that Johnny Williams is an idiot with his Zebra Stripe the Gulf into "No Fish Zones" and he is proving to be a greedy bastard now with this idea, and right up EDF, Jeff Bargers ***,
but are you condoning this behavior Jennings???
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02-17-2010, 11:57 PM
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We all know that Johnny Williams is an idiot with his Zebra Stripe the Gulf into "No Fish Zones" and he is proving to be a greedy bastard now with this idea, and right up EDF, Jeff Bargers ***,
but are you condoning this behavior Jennings???
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not at all Louis.
your **** colorful ***** language is ******entertaining but your***** question was already****** answerd , go back and read the whole ********thread.
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