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Old 07-24-2012, 03:06 PM
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Same issue with the old Hornady "Light Mag" and my wifes 700 243. Switched to Hornady Custom with the interlock and it hangs around an inch.
But with IMR4064 pushing an 80 TTSX, it drops below moa.
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Not trying to start anything but 6"? I have never owned or shot a rifle that shot that poor with any ammo.
Agree and neither have I until this one and it is only with that Hornady superformance ammo. Don't know if it is so hot that it takes a longer barrel or different twist or what, but I am not exaggerating about 6" nor the <1/2" with the handloads. Same rifle and scope.
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same here.
same rifle, same scope, same day.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:21 PM
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Agree and neither have I until this one and it is only with that Hornady superformance ammo. Don't know if it is so hot that it takes a longer barrel or different twist or what, but I am not exaggerating about 6" nor the <1/2" with the handloads. Same rifle and scope.

I bet it has more to do with how far the bullet is from the lands. With factory ammo and chambers that are a tad large to accept all ammo brands. I have found on lowly .22 rimfires the bullet distance from the lands makes a huge difference and almost all of my centerfires like the bullet just touching the lands. If the throat is a little large compared to the brass neck the bullet has to jump start into the lands and if the factory ammo isnt a good fit in the chamber the bullet has no chance of starting down the bore perfect. I bet some hand loads would turn this rifle into a tack driver.
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I agree with you about the leade. When I used to handload that was my first check. Load a bullet "long" in an empty brass case, mark the bullet with a marks a lot, chamber it, check contact, and keep backing the bullet down until you get the desired leade.
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IME 264 win mags are notoriously finicky as with most seriously overbore calibers. I've had 2, sold one and rebarreled the other to a different caliber. The factory ammo is anemic at best and has a LOT of head clearance for a very sloppy fit in the chamber




Remington quality is not what it used to be but can be MADE to shoot with a lot of effort. Of course, some will get lucky and have a shooter right out of the box but most consider the Remington useful because of the design of the action/bolt and fast lock time. Most Remington factory rifles I have dealt with have been long throated, short shouldered and large case bodied chambers. All of which can be dealt with.

You can have the action squared at a gunsmith relatively cheap and that is not something you should do yourself. Then you can buy a box of Acraglas and bed the recoil lug, the action just behind the recoil lug at the action screw and under the chamber portion of the barrel. It is skeery the first time but with lots of release agent it is not that hard to do. Torque the screws down to the recommended foot pounds. Then free float the barrel with judicious use of a dremel.

Once you do any of this or reload for it the factory will be happy to tell you that it voids the warranty but I doubt you will get and good results from them anyway.

That and reloading will more than likely make a huge improvement. The dies that I like to use for making straight ammo are not available in 264 win mag (Lee Collet/Redding Body Die) but you can have them made fairly cheaply or go the conventional route with expander balls and standard dies.

A pre-64 Winchester Model 70 in 264 win mag was the reason I started reloading many years ago but don't own one now.
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Looks like you are showing 0.038" difference on Win factory ammo and your load? That's quite a "jump" to the barrel.
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Looks like you are showing 0.038" difference on Win factory ammo and your load? That's quite a "jump" to the barrel.
Yes, the worst before this particular 264 win mag was the previous Model 70 in 264 win mag at .0295". Most of the other belted mags fall around .020" or so.

It would be interesting to see how much clearance you have. You can make the measurements with a socket in a pinch as long as it hits about the middle of the shoulder and you have a caliper.
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Woods, Whoa! You torque action screws to given INCH POUNDS definitely not foot pounds.
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Torque on action screws doesnt mean a **** thing if the action fits the bed properly. If not your only gambling with them.
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