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Old 03-01-2012, 12:33 PM
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Jim:

Copy the material to word or word perfect, then copy from word/word perfect to the board. That tends to work most of the time.

Alternatively, copy the material to the post, post it, then go to edit, and re-copy the material to the post.

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Question your point?

And what is your point ernest???? Thanks for posting that info Jim! Keep up the heat!!!!

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Jim:

Copy the material to word or word perfect, then copy from word/word perfect to the board. That tends to work most of the time.

Alternatively, copy the material to the post, post it, then go to edit, and re-copy the material to the post.

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Investigation sorely needed

They need to look at the illegal undue influence that EDF wielded in "crafting and passing the 2006 reauthorization of Magnuson" and repeal those changes made as the first order of business....note the last paragraph where greed rules the day still.
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IG to NOAA: New probe going forward

By Richard GainesStaff WriterThe Gloucester Daily Times
Thu Mar 01, 2012, 05:56 AM EST

The Commerce Department inspector general's office has notified NOAA administrator Jane Lubchenco that the investigation sought by two Massachusetts congressmen into the influences of non-government organizations on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and its regional fishery management councils is going forward.

Inspector General Todd Zinser agreed to the probe last October in a letter to Congressmen John Tierney and Barney Frank. They had requested the investigation in an Aug. 17 letter to Zinser.

Ann C. Eilers, principal assistant inspector general for audit and evaluation, indicated the investigation would be national rather than regional in scope in a Jan. 10 memo to Lubchenco, NOAA General Counsel Lois Schiffer, Bruce Buckson, director of the Office of Law Enforcement, and nearly a dozen other high officials the agency.

"Our review of fishery management councils and rule making will be conducted in phases and result in interim products produced at several intervals," Eilers' memo said.

It also said the first step would be an "entrance conference" followed by the "conduct of our review at the fishery management councils and other NOAA locations as necessary."

Zinser's office uncovered widespread abuse of law enforcement authority in 2010, which led to a cabinet-level apology to eight victims of justice miscarried and more than $600,000 in reparations in August 2010.

A special judicial master, retained by then-Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke — now ambassador to China, followed leads into the most egregious cases and has been investigating dozens more, with a second public report based on the follow-up batch of cases expected this spring.

The inspector general's new investigation, as it pertains to the New England Fishery Management Council, arrives as a federal lawsuit against the work of the council and NOAA in creating the catch share regimen for the groundfishery heads into the First U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston.

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NOAA and Commerce Secretary John Bryson are to file briefs in response to the plaintiffs, led by the cities of New Bedford and Gloucester.

The plaintiffs, more than two dozen organizations and individuals, failed in U.S. District Court after arguing that the government had contrived to deny fishermen the right to a referendum on whether to adopt the catch share system by creating a limited access privilege program, a legal structure defined by the Magnuson-Stevens Act, while calling it something else.

Underlying the suit and the decision of the plaintiffs to take the case to the Court of Appeals is an explicit concern about undue influence of environmental non-government organizations — notably thee Environmental Defense Fund — that are financially fueled by giant foundations, including those derived from the success of the Hewlett-Packard, Intel and Wal-Mart corporations.

Fisheries journalist Nils Stople has produced research showing that the foundations have invested more than $500 million to influence and shape fisheries policy in recent years. Among the most pervasive ideas was the push for catch share systems that open the door to fishermen and groups buying, selling or trading shares of an allotted catch for each fish stock.

The net effect — including in New England, according to NOAA's own figures — has been to consolidate more quota and control in fewer hands, while driving many small independent fishing boats and businesses to the sidelines. NOAA figures show that the first year of catch shares essentially shut down some two dozen of Gloucester's then 95-vessel fishing fleet.

Lubchenco, then a board officer with the Environmental Defense Fund, helped obtain foundation funding for catch shares studies and helped write a policy paper for EDF that, financed primarily by the Walton Foundation, urged President Obama to transform U.S. fisheries into catch share markets without delay.

Obama then named Lubchenco to head NOAA and since she has pushed for catch share systems in New England and across America's three coasts.

Acceding to her demand, the New England council in 2009 quickly approved the system now under legal challenge, and put no accumulation caps on ownership of the industry.

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The cod crisis, which emerged surprisingly from a 2011 assessment of the inshore Gulf of Maine cod stock, has spotlighted the fissure in the industry between the big boats and the smaller vessels. A detailed allegation by David Pierce, the commonwealth's representative on the council, centers on the larger offshore boats effectively poaching cod from the inshore waters of nearby Stellwagen Bank.

These legal and industry pressures have induced the council to ask — belatedly — for advice on whether to put accumulation caps on quota to protect fleet diversity.

The deadline for filing advice with the council is Thursday. The earliest time for any limits to the system would be next year, council staff has said.

The Gloucester-based Northeast Seafood Coalition, the largest industry group in the region, and the platform for 12 of the 17 fishing cooperatives allowed to operate with and trade in catch shares, has put its weight against placing any controls on the catch share regimen.

Richard Gaines can be reached at 978-283-7000, x3464, or at rgaines@gloucestertimes.com.
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Initially, Jim's post was blank. I was trying to help him get the info posted.

After I posted, Jim's post was edited to finally get the info up on the board.
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Initially, Jim's post was blank. I was trying to help him get the info posted.

After I posted, Jim's post was edited to finally get the info up on the board.
Ernest-First of all Thanks- I had been able to copy and paste word 2010 on the second or third try. Did not work this time. lol Mont had told me to use a jpeg or note pad but I was just hard headed. lol By the time I decided to do it the correct way the time ran out to delete or edit. I appreciate your trying being helpful which was refreshing.

Seems others attacked Capt. Blood as he thought you were not being helpful via private email. Just the usual suspects that always attach anything involving me. I explained to him you were trying to help me.

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Sorry Ernest, Thanks for setting me straight....my bad! An investigation into NOAA is good news!!!!

And special thanks go out to POCBoy for slamming me hard in my reputation for making a "bad mistake"!!! I clearly did not get Ernest post until Mont set me right. But POCBoy attacked me, called me stupid, etc....for just asking what the point was of an unclear post. Stick to team sports dud!
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